Dawn: Any luck? Willow: If you define luck as the absence of success--plenty.

'Touched'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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§ ita § - Jan 20, 2009 3:09:12 pm PST #9572 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Manic Pixie Dream Girls--one of my most hated fictional stereotypes. I'm glad someone named it for me.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2009 4:55:54 pm PST #9573 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

In general I share your hatred for the type, but the ladies Hepburn are immune to my scorn regardless of how flighty their characters may be.


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2009 4:59:29 pm PST #9574 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I never made it all the way through Breakfast at Tiffany's, so I have no official opinion there. I don't think that Kate was a MPDG in Bringing Up Baby, but I could be biased. I mean, she was a wackaloon, and he did loosen up, but I don't feel the movie worshipped her like many of the others prostrate themselves to the trope.


Juliebird - Jan 20, 2009 5:06:12 pm PST #9575 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

My fave scene is when she went all swinging on the jail door mob gal.

I can't give you anything but love, baby!


Atropa - Jan 20, 2009 5:23:45 pm PST #9576 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I don't think that Kate was a MPDG in Bringing Up Baby, but I could be biased.

nods

I refuse to accept that Kate was a MPDG, either.

And, after reading through the entire article, I am left with the suspicion that there were some guys who expected me to be their MPDG.


Laga - Jan 20, 2009 5:40:28 pm PST #9577 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

My love for Audrey runs deep but I still hate My Fair Lady.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2009 5:55:22 pm PST #9578 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That list also reminded me that I really need to get around to watching Annie Hall one of these days. (I've been holding out for a cinema showing.)


Juliebird - Jan 20, 2009 6:09:30 pm PST #9579 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm surprised that Force of Nature didn't make the list. Except maybe Sandra Bullock's character contained too much dpeth for the stereoptype.

Masculine Perfect Dream Guys. From a recent discussion of my own, may I include the male version, for example Simon Baker's Brian in Something New? While I love the guy, this character was so blatantly perfect and condescending of the female character that I wanted to scream. "Here, let me show you how you've been living your life wrong". *smack*


tiggy - Jan 20, 2009 6:18:57 pm PST #9580 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

sorry about that, Juliebird! it's a really well done documentary. i came away both hating psychos that get away with the things they get away with and having so much respect for Kate and David Bagby for the way they handled everything thrown at them. they are seriously amazing people. definitely watch with tissues on hand. i basically cried the whole way through.


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2009 6:54:29 pm PST #9581 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Julie, I thought of Force of Nature too.

Something New-- yeah any movie where one half of the couple to be is waiting for the other one overcome their issues, or manically dragging them out, both are irritating.