-t, I think that is the pivitol moment for Tristan in the book. I'm not sure he can really be a hero without it. Didn't someone say they wouldn't have helped him if he hadn't untied her? I can't remember who. Tristan is so trusting in the book; he would never be suspicious enough to tie her to the tree.
Hey, evil dead, you're in my seat.
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sj - Aug 16, 2007 5:29:32 pm PDT #912 of 10000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Atropa - Aug 16, 2007 7:22:44 pm PDT #913 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
sj, the person who wouldn't have trusted Tristan was the tree spirit. (Tori the Tree, as I think of her, because Neil has admitted that he based that character off of Tori.)
I expected the movie to be Not The book. I just didn't expect it to be so ... mainstream Hollywood fantasy, or that so much of the charm and character development would be sacrificed on the altar of action sequences.
I don't think the ending of the book is unhappy. Wistful, yes. But unhappy, no. Remember, I'm a huge sap for happy endings. But I found the ending of the movie to be kind of trite.
Oh, and because I'm still in rantycakes mode about this, "Babylon candle" wtf? The fact that the movie didn't have the odd little peddler character who helps Tristan when he first goes beyond the Wall was a huge disappointment for me.
And I was extremely disappointed with how they dealt with the Market. I love the way the Market was presented in the book; the Charles Vess original painting for that scene is something I've coveted for years. In the movie, you barely got to see anything, and it felt like it was one of the sections the screenplay writers just didn't understand.
sj - Aug 16, 2007 7:35:06 pm PDT #914 of 10000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Jilli, thanks for the reminder about the tree spirit. I didn't mean to say earlier that the book ending was unhappy, although I may have made it sound that way. I thought the book ending was happy but not perfectly all wrapped up in a bow happy, which is how the movie ended. It was very trite, as you said.
I also really missed the pedlar. He was my favorite character of the whole book.
I think my favorite part of the movie was Peter O'Toole as the dying king. Love him, and I didn't know he was in the film ahead of time. The rest of it just didn't live up to the magic of the book.
§ ita § - Aug 16, 2007 8:08:09 pm PDT #915 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Anne W. - Aug 17, 2007 1:54:32 am PDT #916 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Oh, my. I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie. The Joker looks as if he'll be very interesting indeed.
Sparky1 - Aug 17, 2007 3:44:04 am PDT #917 of 10000
Librarian Warlord
Hot.
Yes. Very.
Volans - Aug 17, 2007 2:21:01 pm PDT #918 of 10000
move out and draw fire
Interesting different take on The Joker, and on the Batmobile.
Alan Tudyk's getting good reviews for his work in Death at a Funeral.
sumi - Aug 17, 2007 2:23:43 pm PDT #919 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
Death at a Funeral looks like alot of fun.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 17, 2007 6:00:25 pm PDT #920 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Alan Tudyk's getting good reviews for his work in Death at a Funeral.
Yes, and for those who might be interested he apparently gets naked too.
erikaj - Aug 17, 2007 8:50:47 pm PDT #921 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!
Okay, this is dumb, but I wonder about it a lot so I'll post it. You know the Geico commercial where the caveman spots the caveman poster in the airport while the angsty Adult Alternative plays? It totally reminds me of a movie, but I'm not sure which one. So the thought's always like "That reminds me of...?" Which film am I thinking of?