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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Frankenbuddha - Dec 19, 2008 6:16:36 pm PST #9077 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I found the movie so sad that I'm not sure I'm yet up to reading an in-depth analysis.

You mean sad as in a downer and not sad as in bad, right? If the former, I think that's why I don't have quite the energy to read it right now also. That, and (shameful admission) I HATE reading things that require serious critical attention on a computer. I have a similar problem with movies, TV episodes and such. I need a little distance to digest - words on some kind of paper, visions on a screen across the room, etc.


§ ita § - Dec 19, 2008 6:29:10 pm PST #9078 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Absolutely the former, Frank. I really found the movie affecting.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 19, 2008 6:53:39 pm PST #9079 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Absolutely the former, Frank. I really found the movie affecting.

I did too. Plus, the first movie I felt compelled to see at a midnight show opening since... I think...Tim Burton's first Batman movie (which I did enjoy, but in those days I could shrug off the late-night factor of given I was in college at the time, and it didn't affect me nearly half as much).

I do wonder how much of that is the Heath Ledger factor (or the circumstances concerning him I should say, and I'm speaking as someone who only had a passing familiarity with him, having only seen a few early things he was in and not having seen Brokeback Mountain, mainly because I thought it would be a downer), but just about everything in the movie hit me like I was an open nerve.


§ ita § - Dec 19, 2008 7:14:49 pm PST #9080 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Heath Ledger effect was impossible for me to ignore, but the starkness of the ending was just about Gotham and Bruce and Batman and Harvey and Two Face. Oh, and Jim Gordon. I guess I mean it was wide-sweeping but Ledger-effect-free.

I had to retell the entire movie to both my parents, separately. I felt like such a seven year old, because anything with costumes is kiddie stuff to them, and I just wanted them to understand it didn't have to be juvenile just because some guy dressed as a bat and another wore too much makeup.


SailAweigh - Dec 19, 2008 7:39:24 pm PST #9081 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

TDK is one of the few movies that I've given my full attention to every time I've seen it. Most movies, by the third repetition I'm really watching only a third of it. This one, I listen to every single word each time.


Theodosia - Dec 20, 2008 2:47:16 am PST #9082 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oh my god, those Coraline boxes are sheer genius, and what a marketing coup they are, too. Raises my hopes for the movie, indeed.


Laga - Dec 20, 2008 8:43:27 am PST #9083 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Yes, those boxes are surely the best promo materials in the history of movies.


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2008 9:03:28 am PST #9084 of 10000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh my god, those Coraline boxes are sheer genius, and what a marketing coup they are, too. Raises my hopes for the movie, indeed.

If various bloggers are getting them, I have this hope that Jilli would get one for Gothic Charm School.

but the starkness of the ending was just about Gotham and Bruce and Batman and Harvey and Two Face. Oh, and Jim Gordon.

As a crazed Batman fangirl, I was *stunned* by how grim TDK was. And -- I read the comics still. I had no illusions that Batman was going to be an Adam West throwback. The comics are pretty grim, but still, TDK was unrelentingly grim.

Which it *had* to be to tell that story (which I maintain was really Harvey Dent's story all along, just as Batman Begins was Jim Gordon's story), but my god. I still haven't watched it again.


Amy - Dec 20, 2008 9:24:08 am PST #9085 of 10000
Because books.

I came out of TDK reeling and babbling. I loved Batman Begins, despite a few issues with the length, but TDK blew me away. I know what you mean about watching it again, though -- I want to, but I feel like I need to ready this time.

It is very much Harvey Dent's story, I think. Totally agree.


sumi - Dec 20, 2008 9:43:35 am PST #9086 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, I hope jilli gets one too!

That would totally rock.