Wash: Mal, your dead army buddy's on the bridge! Zoe: He ain't dead. Wash: Oh.

'The Message'


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beekaytee - Aug 13, 2007 11:10:26 am PDT #858 of 10000
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I agree with you ita, except that I thought not seeing the monster made him much scarier.

I am totally with you on the spatial grounding. How was it that the monster throws them off a 'cliff', down which they slide and then stand upright...and he's still upright?

I loved the subtle points like the behaviorist getting more and more sunburned...and peeling off his skin without missing a beat.

On the other hand, I felt cheated that the somewhat diverse cast all kept their own accents accept Cillian. An Irish physicist is implausible?

eta: A question...Did it seem to you as if they intended to somehow grab the second 'device' and lug it on the Icarus II or did it seem to you as if they intended to hotwire the Icarus I all along.

My companion heard the latter, but I didn't...which immediately threw me out of the story with 'and how exactly are they going to cart a second ship-sized device away on a one-device designed ship ?


bon bon - Aug 13, 2007 11:17:17 am PDT #859 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Not much geological content, as it turned out...but super creepy. And of the 1 hour 48 minutes, I think roughly 40 minutes were spent on Cillian Murphy's eyes.

Maybe I will have to see this one.


beekaytee - Aug 13, 2007 11:19:35 am PDT #860 of 10000
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They are some beautiful eyes, I tell you what.

He doesn't have to do much acting really...just stare dreamily and run a lot.


Laga - Aug 13, 2007 11:20:07 am PDT #861 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Another Sweeney Todd pic.

drooool. Thanks for the new wallpaper, ita.


Glamcookie - Aug 13, 2007 11:33:54 am PDT #862 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Helena Bonham Carter bugs me.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2007 11:36:52 am PDT #863 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Chris Evans also way exceeds any expectations I had of him.

Beej, about the "thrown off" thing, I assumed afterwards that it had its own gravity. Nothing else made sense.

Let's see-about the extra payload-I guess they were going to tow it, but I don't recall what they said.

Another inconsistency that my sister pointed out was the unanimous acceptance that Kapa (sp?) should go out of the ship to perform repairs. But, hell, what was the captain thinking, going himself? They are the two most important guys on the ship.

I loved the calmness with which they discussed the limitations on their resources, and especially Chris Evan's pragmatism... except where noted above.


Polter-Cow - Aug 13, 2007 11:39:54 am PDT #864 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Chris Evans also way exceeds any expectations I had of him.

Heh. Caught Not Another Teen Movie this weekend. I'd seen it before (perhaps a couple times, really), but it remains fairly amusing.


beekaytee - Aug 13, 2007 11:43:49 am PDT #865 of 10000
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I knew it was Chris Evans, but I didn't recognize the acting. He really did a good job disappearing into the role. And I'm totally with you on the unstinting pragmatism. The coolness with which it was delivered, and the consistency of his viewpoint was some excellent writing.

The self-gravity never occurred to me. That makes more sense than anything else, but still...

See, I figured they intended to tow the second device, but that seems so implausible considering their careful calculations of air and fuel. Handwave!

Two other minor points...the sun is dying...humanity gets together and mines ALL the fissionable material but only sends up a half at a time? That seemed remarkably far-sighted of them.

And Icarus never bothered to mention the 5th lifeform prior to being asked. Unfortunate, that.


beekaytee - Aug 13, 2007 12:07:28 pm PDT #866 of 10000
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Hm. I must have gotten more out of Sunshine than I realized. Just this brief exchange has got me thinking about it in much greater detail.

I knew I'd seen the fellow who plays Trey somewhere before. Turns out he's British...and does a mean American accent. So much for my 'Cillian was singled out' argument. Wong did an amazing Scots accent in On a Clear Day.

ita, as for Capa and Kaneda going out to make the repairs...which was such an intense, though predictable scene... I was moved by how UNimportant the captain's role in the proceedings turned out to be, whether Kaneda or poor Harvey. It did not make sense for the captain to allow himself to be 'outvoted' and let Capa go outside. Without him, the plot she does not thicken...

One last thought...now that I've imdbed Mark Strong, the fellow who played the monster, I'm wishing we'd gotten to see something of him in his pre-Icarus days. Pretty!


beekaytee - Aug 13, 2007 12:36:31 pm PDT #867 of 10000
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Has anyone seen Broken English?