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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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§ ita § - Aug 09, 2007 8:52:54 am PDT #755 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Tell me more about the problems with this movie. I'm very curious.


juliana - Aug 09, 2007 8:58:37 am PDT #756 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

8 months late to the party, but I saw Pan's Labyrinth last night. Um. I didn't like it very much. I can see how I would have liked it, but the nose-breaking scene damn near made me throw up (and thinking about it now upsets me to the point of tears), and I couldn't step out of that headspace to enjoy anything else. I can see what del Toro was doing, and I appreciate his genius, but that scene and a couple others killed any enjoyment I had of the rest of it. IOW, I agree with SA's assessment: SA "Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell" Dec 27, 2006 8:36:50 pm PST

Did anyone else find Happy Feet, uh, deeply problematic?

Yeah, me too. I could gloss over it in the theater, but as soon as I started thinking about it outside, I got cranky.


Cashmere - Aug 09, 2007 9:07:12 am PDT #757 of 10000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Tell me more about the problems with this movie. I'm very curious.

The tale of alienation, I could swallow. The ending just...I dunno...seemed too ridiculous. And that's in a movie with a Penguin voiced by Nicole Kidman singing Prince's "Kiss."


shrift - Aug 09, 2007 9:41:31 am PDT #758 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Tell me more about the problems with this movie.

My first problem is the brain damage angle. The protagonist, what's his nut, Mumble? Yeah, Mumble. When he's still an egg, his father accidentally drops the egg in the snow. He's late to hatch. When he hatches, he's happy and dancing. He's obviously in possession of his full mental faculties, but is regarded as mentally retarded by his father because penguins don't dance. He can't sing like all the other penguins, and at one point, Mumble's father announces to their entire community that Mumble is brain-damaged.

Yeah. The sacrificial retarded penguin would make me want to punch someone in the throat, but it got worse.

Robin Williams doing a Latino accent. Ugh. All the wee little penguins (Adelie, maybe?) were hot-blooded saucy lazy Latinos, and the Emperor penguin community reacted to them... basically like Conservative Republicans react to Mexican immigrants.

Sacrificial retarded penguin gets asked to leave his community because he's bad juju and to blame for the fish shortage, and also his friends are ethnic and scary.

Then they go on a quest to prove that the bad polluting humans are to blame and that Mexicans and Retarded People Can Be Heroes Too No Really.

At this point, I decided to turn off the movie and put it back in my mailbox before I started using it as a discus.

And I'm pretty sure the Antarctic skua were voiced as Italian thugs, but I might be disremembering that.


Zenkitty - Aug 09, 2007 9:46:47 am PDT #759 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Sounds like I can take Happy Feet out of my Netflix queue.

I still want to see Pan's Labyrinth, but I might take precautionary happy drugs beforehand. I'm a lot more sensitive than I used to be to scenes of physical abuse/torture.


Jessica - Aug 09, 2007 9:46:53 am PDT #760 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I found Happy Feet deeply, deeply disturbing. There were also some pretty major structural problems with the narrative, but they were blown away in the end by the message that the best hope for environmentalism is for wild animals to learn to be more entertaining.

During the scene where, he's banging his head against the aquarium wall, the little girl (8?) sitting next to me tearfully asked her mother if the movie was over. The woman tried to reassure her, saying "No honey, this is a movie for kids, there will be a happy ending" but I don't think she bought it.


juliana - Aug 09, 2007 9:47:55 am PDT #761 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I'm a lot more sensitive than I used to be to scenes of physical abuse/torture.

Me too. There were at least 4 "watch through the hands" bits for me. I coped with booze.


beekaytee - Aug 09, 2007 9:50:42 am PDT #762 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

the message that the best hope for environmentalism is for wild animals to learn to be more entertaining.
This took my breath away. The stepnfetchit saves the day moment...I nearly swallowed my tongue.

> During the scene where, he's banging his head against the aquarium wall

This made me cry as it brought back memories of my penguin wrangler days at Sea World SD. A little too close to home, though Emperors are well known for their lack of anybody home upstairs.

eta: oops, should I have whitefonted that? Better safe than sorry.


shrift - Aug 09, 2007 9:53:01 am PDT #763 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oh god, I really liked Pan's Labyrinth but I was squirming and nauseated and making bleating noises of terror during those scenes. If I ever see Sergi López in person, I might accidentally flip out like a mammal.


shrift - Aug 09, 2007 9:54:30 am PDT #764 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Wait, what? Happy Feet came out last year, and the DVD was released in March. Do we still need to whitefont for that?