They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.

River ,'Ariel'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Atropa - Jul 24, 2008 9:14:06 am PDT #7378 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(You people have NO IDEA how much I am looking forward to finally seeing Batman tomorrow, and then going back and reading all the whitefont. Aaaaauugh!)


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2008 9:21:25 am PDT #7379 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Ah. I didn't see him on the ferry. Again, I say, whuh?

Maybe he is friends with Nolan? Or will come back in some future iteration? It just seemed so...throw away!


Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2008 9:23:50 am PDT #7380 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was, but I think it was also in the spirit of the comics, in that Batman's rogue's gallery is always THERE, even if they're not the focus.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2008 9:28:16 am PDT #7381 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

That makes sense P-C. I've seen that in the books...and the tv show, to an extent.

But that still doesn't explain how that character went from scourge, riding off into the night to hanging out with good-hearted but below-average-thinking good guy wannabe.

Mystery!


Frankenbuddha - Jul 24, 2008 9:32:07 am PDT #7382 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But that still doesn't explain how that character went from

Well when he rode away he had a brain full of his own fear spray, so that may have altered his thinking a bit. I did love his line after Batman says he doesn't need any help - (paraphrasing) "That's not my diagnosis."


Laga - Jul 24, 2008 9:37:11 am PDT #7383 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I thought Scarecrow and good-hearted dumb guy were on opposite sides in the melee Batman interrupted but he bundled them together for the police to find.


brenda m - Jul 24, 2008 9:37:18 am PDT #7384 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ah, I must have missed that. Makes sense.


Laga - Jul 24, 2008 9:41:19 am PDT #7385 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think I'm confusing this guy with Cillian Murphy .


bon bon - Jul 24, 2008 9:48:48 am PDT #7386 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Anyway, I didn't think that Harvey Dent was supposed to be pure of intent; I thought that he was supposed to -- at the very least -- have a history of being, well, two-faced.

Well, this is emblematic of my whole problem with the movie -- it was at the end that I realized Dent was supposed to be a white knight. (Which is why I am whitefonting) I think that with Nolan movies, plot comes first and theme gets layered on second, and the result in TDK was that the themes were often incoherent, internally contradictory, and expressed in dialogue/speeches/narration. So as this relates to Dent, we have a character with baggage from the comic books, played by someone who plays it a little smarmy (that courtroom scene was fucking RIDICULOUS), that at the end of the movie we realize was supposed to represent pureness driven to the dark side.


Laga - Jul 24, 2008 9:55:22 am PDT #7387 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I agree the courtroom scene was out of hand. The second time I watched the film I was still expecting to find out later that Dent had orchestrated the whole scene and I had to remind myself that I'd already seen it and we're supposed to take that bit seriously.

Also I'm still finding it odd that Lao is on top of the pile of bills but never mentioned again after Joker starts the blaze. I wonder if a scene of him burning to death was cut out, and the sound of barking dogs now replaces what were oringally his screams.