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§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 11:53:49 am PDT #723 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess what I want to know is if it's a trick, or if it is solid through and through. For which I'd need to watch #2 again, and actually have been looking at the screen at the relevant points of #3. Which, NSM.


Nutty - Aug 07, 2007 2:56:39 pm PDT #724 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

if it's a trick, or if it is solid through and through.

I think it's an unhappily-mashed timeline, i.e. you had WHAT happen all in six weeks? but the timeline is consistent. The scenes are verbatim the same, although shot differently. (The thing I was noticing was that, in #2, it's winter in Russia, but the coda in #2 was shot on a sunny/no-snow day in New York. The same scene in #3 reveals that it is, in fact, also winter in New York, as it would be only six weeks later than #2.)

Is there something specific you're looking for that would reveal it as a trick? To my eye, it appeared solid, or moreso than I expected out of a major motion picture.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 3:22:16 pm PDT #725 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love when something plays out like they knew they were going for this the whole time--I kinda liked #2, and will be happy to watch it again.


Kathy A - Aug 07, 2007 3:37:04 pm PDT #726 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I just got out of Bourne Ultimatum--liked it a lot, more than the second film (even though that one did have Karl Urban), almost as much as the second (that one did have more heart than this one).

ita, about the plot point you're referrring to, I was waiting for that moment from about the time he was in Madrid. I just had a feeling it would pop up again, because I couldn't figure out when else he would have gone to NYC for that final scene in Supremacy. Sure enough, as soon as he was looking at her through the monocular across the street, I knew he'd be calling. I thought that Straitharn was great (as usual), and Julia Stiles was definitely improved over the past two films. But having Albert Finney pop up at the end was a bit disconcerting--in that photo with the Madrid station chief, he looked a lot like Brian Cox .


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 3:44:11 pm PDT #727 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love Straitharn.


Bobbi - Aug 07, 2007 4:31:12 pm PDT #728 of 10000
Dog is my co-pilot.

I love Straitharn.

Oh, yes. Me, too!


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 4:38:56 pm PDT #729 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He is hot in a very distinctive-to-him way.


beekaytee - Aug 07, 2007 4:41:29 pm PDT #730 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

> I love Straitharn.

In everything role he's ever played. Incredible depth and range.

Delores Claiborne to Good Night and Good Luck.

What an actor.


Cashmere - Aug 07, 2007 4:54:23 pm PDT #731 of 10000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Brother From Another Planet.


Kathy A - Aug 07, 2007 5:03:33 pm PDT #732 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I do love that the Bourne films (all of them) have done a good job of revitalizing the stunt-laden film (unenhanced by CGI). The various chases, particularly the one(s) through Tangier, actually brought gasps from the audience, including myself, and a quiet round of applause from my friend. I really loved the little move when the motorcycle went up the wall .