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DavidS - Jun 23, 2008 9:29:54 am PDT #6641 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Quick Poll.

Rank your favorite Pixar movies from top to bottom.

The Incredibles
Toy Story 2
Ratatouille
Toy Story
Finding Nemo
Monsters, Inc.
Cars

I didn't see A Bug's Life.

If I included non-Pixar animated features which have come out since Toy Story (1995) my list would look like this.

Spirited Away
Lilo and Stitch
The Incredibles
Toy Story 2
Howl's Moving Castle (I might like Howl better than Toy Story 2)
Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the WereRabbit (though Wrong Trousers and Close Shave are better still and rank near the top of this list for total pleasure)
Ratatouille
Toy Story
Triplets of Belleville (doesn't quite belong on this list since it's not so much a kid's movie)
The Emperor's New Groove (the genius comic duo of Patrick Warburton and Eartha Kitt)
Kung Fu Panda (might be slightly overrated since I saw it last night)
James and the Giant Peach
Chicken Run (seems like I should love it better but I just don't)
Finding Nemo
Monsters, Inc.
Cars

Hmmm. I think that's how I'd rank them. My list is probably cheating to include Miyazaki but not other anime movies, but I guess I'm thinking of wide distribution in the U.S.

Look at the lack of Disney on there. My favorites there are all pre-1995: Aladin, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid. No wonder they let Lasseter take over their animation. After they lost Katzenberg they completely went off the rails. (Not that Prince of Egypt was going to make my list.)

List of Animated Features since 1995


DavidS - Jun 23, 2008 9:33:25 am PDT #6642 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Addendum, in 2005 there was a direct-to-DVD feature titled My Little Pony: A Very Minty Christmas.

That might be my new candidate for worst title ever.

I'm just going to randomly start wishing people a very minty Christmas. Starting 4th of July weekend.


Sean K - Jun 23, 2008 9:37:40 am PDT #6643 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Favorite Pixar movies (I've seen) from top to bottom:

Finding Nemo
Toy Story 2
A messy tie for 3rd place for: Toy Story, Incredibles, and A Bug's Life.

With a note that I have some serious issues with the underlying Ayn Rand elitism of Incredibles and am disturbed by some of the suggested messages of Ratatouille.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 23, 2008 9:43:02 am PDT #6644 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

If I included non-Pixar animated features which have come out since Toy Story (1995) my list would look like this.

I'm guessing Nightmare Before Xmas was before that? Also, no Corpse Bride?

the genius comic duo of Patrick Warburton and Eartha Kitt

Can't argue with this. That film also had some of the most hilarious nonplussed reaction shots since The Grinch and Daffy Duck (IOW, since Chuck Jones).


Jessica - Jun 23, 2008 9:43:17 am PDT #6645 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You've never seen Monsters, Inc?? But it's wonderful! Just for the big set piece at the end with all the doors ALONE it's worth seeing.


Tom Scola - Jun 23, 2008 9:44:36 am PDT #6646 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I love The Incredibles in spite of the Randism. The production design, the characters, the pacing, Edna Mode, all pitch perfect. It's like what a Connery-era Bond film ought to have looked like.

eta: And I think that Bird wasn't overtly trying to be political; I read the film as Bird's (over) reaction to being screwed over by the bean-counters at Warner.


Jessica - Jun 23, 2008 9:46:01 am PDT #6647 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(And anyone who doesn't put Finding Nemo at the top of their Pixar lists is either (a) crazy with wrongness or (b) has already seen WALL-E and must therefore be shunned. I mean, REALLY.)


JZ - Jun 23, 2008 9:46:30 am PDT #6648 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Mine (I think, for right this minute) (eta: omnibus list, not just Pixar, obviously):

Lilo and Stitch
Spirited Away
Chicken Run
The Iron Giant
Howl's Moving Castle
Triplets of Belleville
The Incredibles
Toy Story 2
Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the WereRabbit
The Emperor's New Groove
The Corpse Bride
A Bug's Life
Toy Story (would be rated higher, but killed by 9 billion repeated viewings for every kidsitting expedition between its date of release and 2004, when I retired from sitting for children not related to me)
Ice Age & Ice Age 2(big drop here)
Madagascar (another big drop)
Cars (just below Madagascar -- had it been a period my-summer-in-Europe romantic comedy about a Harley and a flock of Vespa scooters, it'd be much higher on my list)

Have not seen: Kung Fu Panda
James and the Giant Peach
Finding Nemo
Monsters, Inc.
Ratatouille


Aims - Jun 23, 2008 9:47:15 am PDT #6649 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Incredibles/Monsters, Inc tied for first
A Bug's Life
Toy Story 2
Toy Story
Cars.

I have not seen Finding Nemo all the way through despite owning it and Emeline knowing it by heart.

Then again, I love animated films and I make it a point to not look for nefarious messages hidden or to ignore the blatant one because it truly detracts from my personal enjoyment of the flick.


Sean K - Jun 23, 2008 9:48:53 am PDT #6650 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

the genius comic duo of Patrick Warburton and Eartha Kitt

Hells to the yeah. I love Emperor's New Groove for this alone.