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DavidS - Jun 23, 2008 8:31:21 am PDT #6630 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

An interesting article on Wall-E, Pixar, and comparing Pixar's style to Dreamworks.

Why the fuck is Pixar making Cars 2? That's their least appealing movie.

I want Incredibles 2, dammit!


Miracleman - Jun 23, 2008 8:35:10 am PDT #6631 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I want Incredibles 2, dammit!

Surprisingly, I don't agree with this. I kind of like them leaving it as it is. I don't want a sequel to potentially fuck up what I feel was damn near a perfect film.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2008 8:37:21 am PDT #6632 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Surprisingly, I don't agree with this. I kind of like them leaving it as it is. I don't want a sequel to potentially fuck up what I feel was damn near a perfect film.

I don't care. I just want their design team to make another supervillain lair. Plus, at least throw me an Edna Mode short.

Also, Cars sucked.


Jessica - Jun 23, 2008 8:42:11 am PDT #6633 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, Cars sucked.

What? No it didn't! It wasn't Pixar's best work and I'm confused as hell about why it needs a sequel, but in no way did it suck.


beekaytee - Jun 23, 2008 8:42:13 am PDT #6634 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

I have to agree with the sucking of Cars. I chuckled once or twice but I'm accustomed to being all 'awwwed' and charmed by anything Pixar. I get the audience appeal of the NASCAR niche, but it does nothing for me personally. Can't say I'd go see Cars 2 unless there was something truly remarkable about it.

Wall-E, on the other hand, I'm going to have to see.


Sean K - Jun 23, 2008 8:46:35 am PDT #6635 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I have yet to see Cars, so I have no opinion on its suckage.


Connie Neil - Jun 23, 2008 8:50:42 am PDT #6636 of 10000
brillig

re: Cars . . .

I loved the small Western town just off Route 66, in all its faded old-tourist glory. And Radiator Valley was wonderful.

I liked it.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2008 8:52:53 am PDT #6637 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What? No it didn't! It wasn't Pixar's best work and I'm confused as hell about why it needs a sequel, but in no way did it suck.

Yeah, it did. You know why? It had the same over used plot that every animated movie had that summer. Basically good but self-interested protagonist learns not to be an asshole and value others. I had to see all those movies with Emmett: Over the Hedge, Open Season, et al.

I've decided that this very common theme, second only to "Believe in Yourself" among animated plots, is a rebuttal to the Bush era values. (Conversely, Brad Bird is all Ayn Rand For Munchkins.)

Also, I really didn't want to spend time in that Cars universe the way I did in other Pixar films. That 50s Route 66 vibe has been so completely exhausted by an infinite number of 50s theme diners.


Jessica - Jun 23, 2008 9:00:28 am PDT #6638 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

good but self-interested protagonist learns not to be an asshole and value others.

See also: Toy Story, The Incredibles, and Monsters, Inc.

I'll agree that it falls very low on the Pixar Scale (and gets massive fail points for worldbuilding, though it did lead to one of the more interesting post-movie discussions I've ever had, re: how do they reproduce?), but I'd take it in a heartbeat over just about anything Dreamworks has ever put out.


DebetEsse - Jun 23, 2008 9:09:14 am PDT #6639 of 10000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

And Jessica explains my position far better than I have been able to (well, apart from that discussion. Mine was about waste of fossil fuels)