Young Simon: So... how'd the Independents cut us off? Young River: They were using dinosaurs.

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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Pete, Husband of Jilli - Jun 17, 2008 2:29:03 pm PDT #6493 of 10000
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

MM may not have perfected the teleporter but obviously his reality-distortion field is doing just fine; no one here is sure if Indy IV is a hit anymore.


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2008 2:32:44 pm PDT #6494 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I'm distorted because I feel I should be confused, and I'm not. MM thinks the movie should be a failure. Laga says it wasn't.

Cool.

Now, if MM says the movie was a failure, or Laga says it shouldn't be, then things are weird.

Okay, kidding on the latter.

Mostly.


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2008 2:38:41 pm PDT #6495 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Now, if MM says the movie was a failure

connie did. That's what started the whole tankapalooza.


Connie Neil - Jun 17, 2008 2:58:04 pm PDT #6496 of 10000
brillig

I was curious as to how it was doing a couple of weeks out and was too lazy to look up the numbers myself.


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2008 3:06:20 pm PDT #6497 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, I see! I didn't think anyone still thought it tanked, though. Did you?


Laga - Jun 17, 2008 3:10:14 pm PDT #6498 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

like too many summer tentpoles it was a critical failure and a financial success. I feel a little guilty for liking it but my Indy love is indelible.


Connie Neil - Jun 17, 2008 3:11:51 pm PDT #6499 of 10000
brillig

I didn't think anyone still thought it tanked, though. Did you?

I've heard so many people say they were disappointed in it, I was wondering what word of mouth was doing to its run. I guess Indy trumps weird 50's style commies and sci-fi.

I'm waiting for the dollar movie, but then I usually do.


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2008 3:36:24 pm PDT #6500 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

weird 50's style commies

But...they should be '50s-style Commies. Because the movie takes place in the '50s.


Scrappy - Jun 17, 2008 3:48:46 pm PDT #6501 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I liked it. I dig that 50s cheese.


Connie Neil - Jun 17, 2008 4:12:42 pm PDT #6502 of 10000
brillig

But it's weird for Indy. When I think Indy, I think Nazis. He should have run into the Boys in Brazil. He was in South America anyway.

It may be that the commies are too modern, too real a foe. Nazis, for all the modern skinheads and all, are safely in the past and easy to cast in the role of evil. Plus it's easy to have the Nazis hunting for magical/religious items, since they were more or less doing it anyway. Commies (I hate using that term, it's the easy shorthand of reactionaries) are too technological, their weapons are the space race and nukes. Indy's weapons are his whip and his knowledge of history and mysticism. They don't blend well, in my mind.