Ludlum's more pulpy. There are many people in Le Carré's league. Graham Greene, perhaps?
Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.
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§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 1:10:09 pm PDT #62 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
JZ - Jul 09, 2007 1:12:48 pm PDT #63 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Graham Greene is so infinitely better than Ludlum. Though he doesn't really inhabit the "spy novel" portion of my bookbrain.
§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 1:14:30 pm PDT #64 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Though he doesn't really inhabit the "spy novel" portion of my bookbrain.
I got to him through Our Man in Havana, so he does for me. Ludlum is more in a class with Fleming, though I think I like Fleming better.
Miracleman - Jul 09, 2007 1:19:17 pm PDT #65 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I liked Frederick Forsyth's "The Fourth Protocol", which was made into a so-so movie with Pierce Brosnan.
Nutty - Jul 09, 2007 1:22:23 pm PDT #66 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Fleming at least is brief. OTOH, Ludlum's personal angst is a little bit camouflaged by the fact he is so lengthy.
I liked Ludlum; he got me through highschool; but as with a lot of my highschool reading I can't bear to read it now I'm no longer in highschool.
bon bon - Jul 09, 2007 1:26:22 pm PDT #67 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Ludlum and Tom Clancy and Helen McInnes were also my high school friends. And Sidney Sheldon. Man, what taste I had. At the time, however, I remember Ludlum's "funny" books actually being funny, and damn he was prolific.
Kathy A - Jul 09, 2007 1:27:35 pm PDT #68 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
The Fourth Protocol (movie version) also had Joanna Cassidy and Michael Caine, so I rather liked it, even though it did involve an awful lot of running around on Caine's part.
juliana - Jul 09, 2007 1:48:14 pm PDT #69 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
I love Movie!Bourne. He's all woobieful and etched with pain, but he doesn't burble about it; he just shoots the shit out of people and snaps their neck and stuff, and then he looks broken some more, occasionally in shirts that show off some arm. That's good enough for me.
And he runs! Properly! Like a military man! All economy and power and...
I'll be in my bunk.
(I swear, I'm the only one I know who gets hot'n'bothered over movie characters running. Daniel Craig's running in Casino Royale? Dreamy as hell.)
§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 1:49:26 pm PDT #70 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I get hot and bothered over JRM's running in Bend It Like Beckham, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of vibe.
juliana - Jul 09, 2007 1:54:31 pm PDT #71 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
but that's a whole 'nother kettle of vibe.
That's more of a "Dear GODS, what is he DOING? He could put someone's eye out with the flappy elbows and knees!" vibe, isn't it?