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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Theodosia - Jan 01, 2008 9:21:19 am PST #3138 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, First Blood the original book is excellently written and all in the voice of Rambo's inner thoughts. It's like the character has gone through a Xerox machine far too many times.


Kevin - Jan 01, 2008 9:57:37 am PST #3139 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Typo, his character dies at the end, however they've added in other survivors and a bunch of other stuff. They basically changed the meaning of the legend into a Hollywood ending (he Saves Da World!), which is a shame. Although I suspect a mainstream audience would have hated the book ending.


Cashmere - Jan 01, 2008 10:05:27 am PST #3140 of 10000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Except First Blood was NOT like the others. I liked that one, and was disappointed with what little I saw of the others.

Oh, agreed! I should have stated that I did like First Blood. I think it's a good film. It's the caracature that the Rambo character became that bothers me most.


Typo Boy - Jan 01, 2008 10:07:32 am PST #3141 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Kevin, thanks = reply whitefonted below

Although the Omega Man, for all its cheesiness did end with the world going to the plague victim/mutants. I believe there was a Vincent Price version I never saw that also ended with the vampires taking over. Omega Man was commercially successful, as I remember. (And honestly, I enjoyed the Omega Man. Of course I was a teenager at the time. Don't know if I'd like it as well today.)


Frankenbuddha - Jan 01, 2008 12:54:17 pm PST #3142 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Typo, one key difference from the book is that until he totally loses it - basically when he has to put his dog down by hand because he'e become infected (and cheesy as that sounds, it was a GREAT dog, and a symbolic one as well) - the Will Smith character is using his blood to try to come up with a cure. He only starts going on a kill rampage after he goes over the edge (which pretty much coincides with the timeline of the movie). Until then, the deaths of the mutants have been from serums that didn't work.

I love the story of the original, but I like where they went with the revision they decided to do. I feel a TRUE Hollywoodized ending would have had Neville getting away too.


Typo Boy - Jan 01, 2008 12:57:04 pm PST #3143 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It sounds interesting, worth a shot.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 01, 2008 1:02:20 pm PST #3144 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'd almost argue that the changes to I AM LEGEND were similar in changing the book to the way BLADE RUNNER changed DO ANDROIDS DREAM ELECTRIC SHEEP? That is, equally compelling story, but some of the meanings are almost completely reversed.


Kevin - Jan 01, 2008 1:21:56 pm PST #3145 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

True enough, Frankenbuddha. I actually enjoyed the movie, although it was a little grating to see the last man on earth happens to be brilliant, able to save everybody, have a hot body yadada. The vision of the empty city was wonderfully done.


Stephanie - Jan 02, 2008 2:15:20 am PST #3146 of 10000
Trust my rage

I've been wanting to talk about I am legend since I saw it. It was a movie that I actually liked but it has totally creeped me out and I haven' t been able to stop thinking about it. I haven't read the book so I don't have anything to compare it to.

Like Kevin, I loved how they did the empty city. It was very cool and haunting at the same time. I had the feeling that there was a fair amount of story missing ( for example, I assume the zombie he caught was the wife/partner of the crazy zombie that was leading the charge against him, because we kept seeing him and he was so determined to get to her, but Neville actually implied the opposite in his log - that the zombies were mindless and less human. Also, for zombies, those things were pretty fast and bloodthirsty.) but since I'm not familiar with the book, I don't know what it was.

Anyway, I've been trying to put my finger on what creeped me out so much and I'm not sure if it was losing his daughter, having to turn away from the screaming little girl and her desperate mother at the port or having to strangle his dog. And the dog was very cool. I guess the other sad thing though was, despite the incredible security measures you saw him take, his existence seemed relatively comfortable, albeit lonely and depressing, until you saw how close to death he was as soon as the sun went down. I wouldn't put this movie in the "scary movie" category (I usually avoid those because they give me nightmares) but I guess maybe it was just believeable enough to really creep me out.


tiggy - Jan 02, 2008 2:23:36 am PST #3147 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Stephanie your post has solidified that i will continue avoiding seeing I Am Legend. i tend to avoid zombie movies anyway, but yeah... this one's a no go for me.