Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?

Wash ,'Serenity'


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Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2007 11:27:00 am PST #3099 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm _ I'll accept that for the most part. I really think there were some serious errors even given this interpretation - Mrs. Lovett and Johanna were seriously miscast.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2007 4:36:05 pm PST #3100 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Saw Sweeney this afternoon with Tom Scola (at the fancy new Kabuki theater refurbished by Sundance).

I'm with Robin. I think the movie worked as a movie, and it would've been very difficult to maintain the tone of the stage production. I just watched Angela Lansbury and George Hearn doing "A Little Priest" on YouTube and it was much more broad - as it should be on a stage.

The movie was dark and tragic with some great bits of grim humor. I really liked HBC's performance. Didn't mind her voice. The smaller voices worked fine with the intimacy of all the closeups. Much more like thinking aloud than declaiming.

Also, it is criminal that Jilli hasn't seen it yet since the costuming is spectacular. (Particularly in "By the Sea.")

Before the movie, Scola and I had donburi at the Japantown Center, then we got a drink at the cinema's bar. Afterwards we went to Bittersweets the chocolate cafe and had superdelicious hot chocolate.

A day well spent.


Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2007 6:05:36 pm PST #3101 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

think the movie worked as a movie,

Here it is not worth arguing over - depends on what you like. You do, I don't.

and it would've been very difficult to maintain the tone of the stage production.

That is worth arguing over. Don't see why it would have been more difficult to make a dark comedy rather than tragedy with comic overtones - especially for Burton, a master of dark comedy. I would not expect it to be exactly the same; to maintain it as a dark comedy rather than a tragedy with grim humor might have required a slightly less literal translation of the plot, though maybe it could have kept more of the music.

The smaller voices worked fine with the intimacy of all the closeups. Much more like thinking aloud than declaiming.

Except I would swear Jayne Wisener as Joanna was straining for the high notes in "little bird". And maybe HBC would have been better off she'd really declaimed rather than tried to sing - like Rex Harrison in "My Fair Lady".


Fay - Dec 30, 2007 7:34:36 pm PST #3102 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I am very very very frustrated that this damn movie (a) won't come to the UK until long after I've returned to Thailand and (b) doesn't seem to HAVE an opening date in Thailand.

Still, hopefully it'll be available as a pirate DVD once I get back there, so there is that. But I'd rather see it on the screen!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2007 7:39:14 pm PST #3103 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I discovered how easily I can be bought. I just found out that new flick from the Date Movie people, Meet the Spartans, features Sean Maguire as Leonidas. Despite the fact that it also features Kevin Sorbo and Diedrich Bader likewise running around 7/8 naked, I think I'm going to have to see it.


Fay - Dec 30, 2007 8:19:02 pm PST #3104 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oh, Matt, Matt.

shakes head.

...I have to say, I rather think that The 300 WAS its own pastiche already. I mean, how are they going to top it?

Ah. No bowm-chika-bowm-bowm soundtrack intended on that last sentence, and yet somehow...


P.M. Marc - Dec 30, 2007 9:26:25 pm PST #3105 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sadly, I might be tempted to see it. But of the three nekkidish men mentioned, really, only Sorbo's the turn-off.


Jessica - Dec 31, 2007 3:20:32 am PST #3106 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The smaller voices worked fine with the intimacy of all the closeups. Much more like thinking aloud than declaiming.

I agree wrt to Depp, but I honestly couldn't understand what HBC was saying half the time, and I've had the entire show memorized since I was 12.

She wasn't just singing small, she was mumbling. Which meant that the few jokes Burton did leave in for her got swallowed. And there's no reason for "inside my own head mumbly breathy singing" during numbers like the Pirelli scene and "God That's Good!" when she's supposed to be talking out loud to other people.


Jesse - Dec 31, 2007 9:16:06 am PST #3107 of 10000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just saw Juno, and LOVED IT. It was funny that there was a group of Actual Teenagers in the theater with me, to hear their reactions to things, which were of course very different from mine. It made me laugh a lot, and toward the end it made me cry a lot. Through the end of the movie, into the bathroom, and even a little walking down the street. Oops.


Typo Boy - Dec 31, 2007 9:37:29 am PST #3108 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm with Jessica here. Depp surprised me by being able to sing. HBC not so much. And the girl who played Joanna really surprised me, cause I think she sang the part on stage in London. Maybe she had a sore throat during filming...