Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyone before. Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

'War Stories'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Juliebird - Oct 19, 2007 7:15:50 am PDT #1729 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

If there really were tells to help separate the Bordens, I didn't find it obvious which brother did what, or which died, and which pulled the trigger in the end. The fact remains that they were twisted enough to live their charade, even as it negatively impacted the women they loved, leaves both sullied in my eyes.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2007 7:25:03 am PDT #1730 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It should have been a moment where the story became clearer as it revealed itself fully. Not muddied with lies presented as truths to the audience.

I have not seen The Prestige yet, so I can't fully comment on it, but I know Chris Nolan (the director) likes stories about unreliable narrators. I think it's why he's done so well with the Batman franchise (and why I'm very excited about Dark Knight) -- Bats cannot be trusted to paint an honest picture of himself. Neither can the Joker.


Hayden - Oct 19, 2007 7:59:46 am PDT #1731 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'm with Scola. Hated the characters and really, really hated the not-so-twisty ending.


le nubian - Oct 19, 2007 8:06:21 am PDT #1732 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I know Chris Nolan (the director) likes stories about unreliable narrators.

Seriously. That's what I love Nolan's movies. I don't even like magicians and I don't usually watch movies about magicians, but when I heard he directed the movie, I was first in line at the theater. Nolan does character development pretty well for most of the important characters in his movies.

Memento just slayed me and I've loved the director ever since. The movie works great playing it forward too! Just wow.


Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2007 8:08:31 am PDT #1733 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I love Memento a lot. I've never watched it played forward. I have the collector's DVD edition; does it have that feature?


Dana - Oct 19, 2007 8:09:53 am PDT #1734 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It should have the option to play the movie in chronological order, IIRC.

Memento also made me a fan of Christopher Nolan.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2007 8:12:37 am PDT #1735 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I have the collector's DVD edition; does it have that feature?

The one where the interactive menus are presented as a series of psychological exams? Yes, it has that feature. It has lots of bonus features, but they can be difficult to find, since the entire menu system is one big, complicated easter egg.

If you want to find all the hidden features for that edition, I strongly recommend looking it up on an easter egg listing site. That's the only way I was able to operate that DVD.

And I recommend watching the movie through that way. A number of interesting questions about the film and about Leonard's story become a lot clearer when you watch the film in linear order.


Juliebird - Oct 19, 2007 8:12:54 am PDT #1736 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I know Chris Nolan (the director) likes stories about unreliable narrators

that probably explains the presence of the scene that irked me. I mean, character-wise, I think it worked, but as a finish for the movie, not so much for this here gal.


bon bon - Oct 19, 2007 8:17:47 am PDT #1737 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I thought Memento was funny, and I admire Nolan's ability to keep twisty narrative threads straight. But putting him and Christian Bale in the same movie is the road to dourville. They both have a tendency to take themselves too seriously, which ruined Batman Begins for me, and made Prestige kind of unfun to watch. Bale is comparatively lighthearted in Rescue Dawn, where he's a frickin POW.

Related: Thinking about it, it’s entirely possible that sex symbol Christian Bale has never played a character who’d be worth the trouble of sleeping with.


Nutty - Oct 19, 2007 8:47:06 am PDT #1738 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Reign Of Fire: Too embarrassed about being in this movie to relax and open up emotionally.

I'm sorry, has she seen this movie? It's as cheerful a pile of melty cheese as ever graced a slice of toast! Surely if Michael Caine can see his way clear to Jaws 2, Christian Bale can show his face over a silly dragons-and-shirtlessness caper.

(I'm secretly convinced that British actors just don't have a sense of shame.)