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'Beneath You'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Fred Pete - Jul 10, 2007 4:49:16 pm PDT #118 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.

In Non HP talk did anyone see that TCM had a Silent Shakespeare special on?

Sunday, midnight Eastern. Razza-frazzin' TiVo decided to record channel 56 instead of 256.


askye - Jul 10, 2007 5:31:01 pm PDT #119 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

Fred that's too bad! I hope that TCM replays it.

Kathy, I think it's interesting to look at very early film work. There's a short piece that starts it off that was filmed in 1899, there's not much remaining. Then the others are The Tempest (1908) and Midsummer's Night Dream (1909). Both of those had outdoor shots and it reminded me a bit of home movies, the way the camera is very still on the subjects and doesn't pan at all. Then also the light looks very natural, like they've set a camera out there and are only using natural light. There are definitely limits besides the lack of sound, they can only move within the square of the camera and it can't get closer but the actors can get closer, but not too close. There are some editing tricks (to make characters appear and disappear) and then special effects of paintings and other things.

It very much looks like a filmed play done on a very narrow stage and there's no panning over to the next scene, it either jumps to the next seen or there's a break to the words for setting up the next scene.


Aims - Jul 11, 2007 3:31:05 am PDT #120 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

BEST HP movie to date.

More later as I wake up.


Kate P. - Jul 11, 2007 4:27:20 am PDT #121 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I really enjoyed HP5, though I wouldn't say it's my favorite (that's still #3 for me). I'd put it on par with #4. The pacing is problematic, and that affected my reactions to some scenes that should have been more powerful. In fact, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think it would have worked better if it had been a half hour longer. It needed a little more time to establish some key elements like the purpose and importance of Harry's Occlumency lessons with Snape, or the role that each kid plays in the climactic fight at the Ministry, or the impact of the prophecy.

But as noted, the acting is great, much improved over the last ones. I was quite impressed with Daniel Radcliffe (and, okay, I know I'm late to the party, but when did he actually get hot?? rowr!) and Imelda Staunton was *brilliant*. I also loved the girl who played Luna Lovegood. I thought Emma Watson was the weak link, though -- she came off kind of flat in a lot of her scenes. I've really liked her in the previous movies, so I don't know what's up with her now.

My favorite bits were the Dumbledore's Army scenes -- you really get the sense of these kids' fear of what's coming, but also their excitement at finally learning how to defend themselves and maybe even make a difference in the fight against Voldemort. Plus, Neville! Also all the teen-romance bits, often just throwaway things like a great reaction shot from Ginny when Hermione is teasing Harry about Cho Chang.

Best post-movie comment from one of my friends: "I love how Bellatrix LeStrange escaped from Azkaban -- by actually gnawing her way through the scenery."


Dana - Jul 11, 2007 4:41:41 am PDT #122 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I figured 5 would make a good movie, whereas it's a really depressing (and almost oppressive) book.

I'll believe it's better than 3 when I see it, though. Which...won't be for a while.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 11, 2007 4:49:08 am PDT #123 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I figured 5 would make a good movie, whereas it's a really depressing (and almost oppressive) book.

Nodding in agreement. Umbridge was the kind of villain who is nigh intolerable in an 870 page novel, but can work very well in a movie (and given how the reviews have been praising Staunton, it sounds like that's exactly what happened).


le nubian - Jul 11, 2007 5:16:41 am PDT #124 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Umbridge was the kind of villain who is nigh intolerable in an 870 page novel, but can work very well in a movie

Without having yet seen the movie, I'm in complete agreement.


Polter-Cow - Jul 11, 2007 5:21:07 am PDT #125 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I will certainly agree with the first part. Lord, did I hate her. And not in a love-to-hate way.


Aims - Jul 11, 2007 5:22:15 am PDT #126 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

From her first "hem-hem" to being carried off by the cenataurs, you hate her and she's just fucking bang on perfect.


le nubian - Jul 11, 2007 5:29:52 am PDT #127 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Am I correct in thinking that Rowling modeled her after Thatcher?