Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - Jul 17, 2007 8:16:38 am PDT #823 of 23273
brillig

I saw Caravaggio and Van Gogh, but only got David by accident. The overall feel I get is "Madness makes you a better artist, milk that torment, baby, milk it." Oh, and if you can put sexual themes in your religious stuff, all the better. There's a Bernini (?) statue of the Annunciation that has lots of erotic potential, but it's like Schama can only do the 12-year-old interpretation instead of acknowledging the frequent sublimination of erotic feeling into religious ecstasy.

He's all the worst kind of "sophisticated" art observer who wants to make sure you know he doesn't fall for that obvious pretty stuff and that only the truly intelligent and informed could appreciate a painting the way he does.

edit: I'd have great fun in the Renaissance castigating fellow observers of new art.


Kathy A - Jul 17, 2007 8:43:32 am PDT #824 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Yeah, I've been taping the series simply because I love his "History of England" series so much, but once I finally get around to watching all the eps, I think I'll be taping over them.


Laga - Jul 17, 2007 12:12:52 pm PDT #825 of 23273
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Rothko


Connie Neil - Jul 17, 2007 12:32:40 pm PDT #826 of 23273
brillig

Ah, he's one of those, "See the magnificent variants in my tonalities, don't you see the savage commentary on gender relations?"

I truly do not get modern art.

edit: and I'm probably unfair to Rothko, those two landscapes are cool. I wonder which one Schama will rip apart.


Kathy A - Jul 17, 2007 12:40:18 pm PDT #827 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I truly do not get modern art.

You and me both, connie, you and me both. That one landscape called "Sky" was nice, but nothing outstanding IMO.


libkitty - Jul 17, 2007 12:53:05 pm PDT #828 of 23273
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

But if it's PBS I suppose it's very likely that they'll repeat at some point.

You can often get these at the library after a bit, as well.


Jessica - Jul 17, 2007 12:55:56 pm PDT #829 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Most BBC series airing on PBS are also already on DVD.


bon bon - Jul 17, 2007 1:02:19 pm PDT #830 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I said it in natter, but I guess I can repeat it here. The Bernini episode of the Schama series is wonderful. (An episode not at all harmed by the intensely good looking actors playing Bernini and his brother.) I was confused by connie's post, were you saying that Schama is too austere for Bernini's Ecstasy sculpture? Because he was pretty gaga for it.


Connie Neil - Jul 17, 2007 1:04:53 pm PDT #831 of 23273
brillig

I think my favorite type of art is the intricate Old Master type, especially of the ilk of Durer [link] where you can admire the technique and consider the composition and the choice of elements and look at the picture itself and the story it's telling.

When I was working at the Huntington Library once month years ago, I was wandering the Renaissance section one afternoon and explaining to a bored guard about the elements of some medieval icons. I turned around, and a school group was standing behind me listening intently. Some of them were taking notes. it was kind of fun


Connie Neil - Jul 17, 2007 1:09:58 pm PDT #832 of 23273
brillig

I was confused by connie's post, were you saying that Schama is too austere for Bernini's Ecstasy sculpture

He seemed too tittilated by it. To be fair, I only saw the preview, but after sitting through his Carravagio episode and getting tired of what felt like a salacious enjoyment of the artist's troubles, his approach to the Bernini just felt too "Look! Sex! In a church! Tee hee!" for me.