This Death of Marat?
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Laga - Jul 16, 2007 9:14:05 pm PDT #805 of 23273
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
le nubian - Jul 17, 2007 6:31:39 am PDT #806 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Kathy A - Jul 17, 2007 6:32:27 am PDT #807 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
Yep, that's the one, Lee
I think Schama has a real detestation for anything resembling representationism in art, that art isn't legitimate unless smart people have to stare at it and debate its Meaning.
Feh on him, then. Like I said upthread, I love Turner, but when it gets too fuzzy/nonrepresentational, I just tune out. Guernica is about as abstract as I can take.
bon bon - Jul 17, 2007 6:40:40 am PDT #808 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
What happened on that episode? Schama doesn't like David?
lisah - Jul 17, 2007 6:54:46 am PDT #809 of 23273
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What happened on that episode? Schama doesn't like David?
My folks are into that show, evidently. I talked to them before it was on last night and my Mom was talking about how much she was looking forward to the show but that she hates David. I don't know why.
lisah - Jul 17, 2007 6:54:48 am PDT #810 of 23273
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WHOA FINGER SPASM!
lisah - Jul 17, 2007 6:54:51 am PDT #811 of 23273
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Kathy A - Jul 17, 2007 7:07:10 am PDT #812 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
He kept on coming back to The Death of Marat as being TEH EVIL PAINTING that ruined David's life, which is more than likely true, but he was really ripping it as being a Terrible Thing. I thought it was more analogous to Triumph of the Will in that it was a propaganda piece that outlived the regime it was promoting, as did the creator. Just as with Leni Reifenstahl, he was rejected by his native country and sent into exile, where he did more innocuous works until his death. But, Triumph is still acknowledged as a piece of art, even one with an abhorrent theme, just as The Death of Marat is.
sumi - Jul 17, 2007 7:13:36 am PDT #813 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!
I think that David's stuff looks dry, dry, dry.
megan walker - Jul 17, 2007 7:27:29 am PDT #814 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
I think David was brilliant at what he did, propaganda painting. His portraits of Napoléon are stunning.
FYI, Schama's most famous work is on the Revolution, but he is not very well respected by historians of France, mostly due to his whack perspective on said Revolution.