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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


tiggy - Apr 10, 2008 6:11:54 pm PDT #4433 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

when you say Simon are you referring to Cowell or Fuller? because Cowell isn't really involved after the show is over. Simon Fuller is the 19 Entertaiment founder and his label is the one that signs all of the winners. he and Nygel Lythgoe are the brains behind Idol the tv show.


kat perez - Apr 10, 2008 6:47:58 pm PDT #4434 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

The way that tiggy feels about David C. is the same way that I felt about Danny on So You Think You Can Dance when he was getting the figjam edit. I could not for the life of me fathom all the folks who talked about how arrogant he was or how he already thought he'd won the competition and would get all mama bear protective, so I totally get not getting why everyone is hating on my favorite.

I love Idol. Have loved it since the very first season. And I'm not buying what David C. is selling, which is the same thing that Daughtry and all the "cred" contestants sell on this show. They sell this image that by liking them you are liking something "real" and "authentic" and somehow better than the show and better than the other kids who are manufactured pop creations on the show. And you know, fuck that noise. You are on Idol. You stood in the rain all night with the frikkin' bush baby, and the nutcase crack heads. You sang Edwin McCain's crap ass Dawson's Creek song in the audition rounds. You have made your reputation by being a copy of a copy of musicians with original thoughts and takes on music. If you had any real cred or artistic scruples, you'd never have stepped foot on the Kodak theater stage. So, no. You don't get to smirk at me or mouth off to Simon. David C. always comes of to me like he believes that he is better than the show and he is deigning to grace us with his presence so that he can show us how it's really done. Every time he takes the teensy bit of criticism he's gotten, he has some spiel about how he's just being who he is and doing what he does. Keeping it real, you know. And again I say, fuck that noise. You're on the show to be judged. To listen, learn, and hop into your box. That's how this show works. Everybody knows that by now. It's not like you don't know that your signing your soul away to 19E the first time you get the green wristband in Podunk Motor Raceway Stadium. It's season 7, for pity's sake. Get with the doggone program. If you have no interest in being down for the cause, then get the hell off my show. That's what drives me crazy about D. Cook. It's what drives me crazy to this day about frikkin' Daughtry every time he whines about the show or somehow slights or disparages it in an interview. I loved me some Blake. Thought he should have won once Melinda got knocked out. I appreciated that he tried to do new things. But he never, ever acted like he was too good for the show. And David Cook does act like that. All the damn time. He may not be trying to come off like a ridiculous tool, but that's how it reads to me. And that's why I don't like him. YMMV, as always.

Plus, he's incredibly unfortunate looking and I like pretty people, dammit. I take the subway to work every day, I don't need to come home and see busted fools on my TV.


bon bon - Apr 10, 2008 7:04:52 pm PDT #4435 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I take the subway to work every day, I don't need to come home and see busted fools on my TV.

If I hadn't just changed my tagline, kat. I love this.


brenda m - Apr 10, 2008 7:05:50 pm PDT #4436 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

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Oh my good god, someone crossed SGA with Project Runway.

"And at least you're talented," Rodney says, chewing as though he's on speed (a real possibility, John decides). "Unlike Todd. Did you see that gothic monstrosity he's creating? God."


megan walker - Apr 10, 2008 9:09:27 pm PDT #4437 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

David Archuletta, for all he can sing, bores me to tears.

This is how I feel about Sayesha too.


flea - Apr 11, 2008 12:43:32 am PDT #4438 of 23273
information libertarian

I was the one who called Michael Johns skeevy. I always got the vibe from him that he was trying to be sexy, but for me it came across as "oh please take a bath." The way some people react to Colin Farrell.

Also I would like to note that in my rundown of the contestants I completely forgot Syesha. That tells you everything about her.


SailAweigh - Apr 11, 2008 3:59:21 am PDT #4439 of 23273
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

David Archuletta, for all he can sing, bores me to tears.

So much yes to this. Sweet voice, but totally overwhelmed by his stage father.

What kat says is pretty much how I feel. DC knew what he was buying into when he auditioned, so he should quit trying to repaint it, sand the corners down, and dismantle it. WYSIWYG and you gets what you pays for.

kat, I was one of those who thought Danny on SYTYCD was arrogant. The difference between him and DC is that Danny finally realized what was giving folks that image and became more approachable. He was selling all ballet, all the time and coming across as culturally superior. Once he toned down the toe point and became a little more pop, people started liking him. I had a seriously hard time choosing between him and Sabra for the final vote. Heck, I still voted for him, but not as many times as for Sabra because I honestly thought he had it sewed up and my votes were more for Sabra's moral support.


flea - Apr 11, 2008 5:22:38 am PDT #4440 of 23273
information libertarian

Anther thing for me is that AI is a pop singer contest. So you may the rock band front man kind of singer, but the production company is looking for a pop solo artist kind of singer (and my personal preference is for people who can really SING, you know, dawg?) That's a strike against David Cook with Simon, for example.

I don't remember AI being so much a "imitate/cover badly other people's versions of songs" in past years, but I haven't watched it regularly since season 3 or so. It's disappointing; a real singer needs to make a song his/own (again, to quote Randy.) That seems to be one thing David Archuleta can do, which I think is why the judges like him.


brenda m - Apr 11, 2008 5:46:24 am PDT #4441 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, the two Davids are out in front on that measure, I'd say.

That's a strike against David Cook with Simon, for example.

I think that's right.


tiggy - Apr 11, 2008 6:10:26 am PDT #4442 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

a real singer needs to make a song his/own (SNIP) That seems to be one thing David Archuleta can do

I know what all these words mean separately, but arranged together this way DOES NOT COMPUTE!