Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.

'Objects In Space'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Frankenbuddha - Apr 05, 2008 4:09:20 am PDT #4311 of 23273
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What is it about chef personalities that make them so volatile on this show?

I think it may be a trait of chef personalitites period (big generalization there). To be in charge of a kitchen under pressure requires at least, a strong, forceful personality, and I think that can often tip over into overbearing all the way to assholery. There are always exceptions, but I think being able to get people to do what you want to in a short amount of time is an absolute pre-requisite. They aren't under exactly the normal pressures, but you've got a bunch of alpha personalities in comptition. I'd guess it brings out the worst in a good many of them.


le nubian - Apr 05, 2008 4:23:39 am PDT #4312 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Liese,

I think your observations are on point. MMaSM: Truly. Fascinating stuff. And Uncomfortable! Perry and Ben's interactions with their SOs were just cringe worthy. I don't believe any of that was staged at all - though Perry's friends and family are gonna have to tell him that he is getting punk'd.


Kristen - Apr 05, 2008 8:55:02 am PDT #4313 of 23273

I don't get how it's so different a vibe, but there's just something about the realtimeness and the intimacy of the modeling and the house scenes that just was clearly so straining for everyone's relationships.

I thought about this and I have a theory. I think that on most reality shows, your SO goes off and does the show. And maybe you're sad and lonely and miss them. Then they come back and there's an adjustment period and they tell you what happened and, eventually, you see it on TV. So when you see them flirt with some chick or dude, they're sitting next to you on the sofa and can explain it. Like, "oh, right before this challenge that looks so cool on TV there was a monsoon and we were all soaked and I hadn't eaten anything but a rat in the last 48 hours."

With this show, you were watching your SO have all these adventures while you were alone, which I think would amplify those feelings of being sad and lonely. You're kinda watching the highlight reel and there's no context. Plus there wasn't any adjustment period of having this person back and hearing their side of things.

I'm not sure that made any sense. It does in my head but I'm probably not wording it correctly.

And I think I didn't want to know any of that, really.

It does feel like the voyeurism of reality TV got bumped up 12 levels, at least for me. I like the competition reality shows. The ones about people's actual lives always make me uncomfortable.


Lee - Apr 05, 2008 12:31:01 pm PDT #4314 of 23273
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm not sure that made any sense. It does in my head but I'm probably not wording it correctly.

It makes sense to me. It was also jarring as a viewer, because usually on reality shows, the personal lives of the people you're watching are only seen to the extent that as they relate to the show/competition. Here that had mostly been true all season, and then suddenly they stepped away from the competition to add in personal lives after the competition was effectively over. The timing of the whole thing was way off.

I also think Ben's marriage is pretty much doomed, and two years from now he's going to be back home, talking about his glory days and growing a beer belly, and that made me sad.


Morgana - Apr 05, 2008 4:58:35 pm PDT #4315 of 23273
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Agree that the dismissal line is lame.

(that was in reference to SiUaD, or whatever acronym we're using)

Did any of you ever watch the hideously boring design show Bravo did? So boring that at the moment I can't even remember the name of the man who was the main draw for the show. Anyway, his dismissal line was "See you later, decorator." I cringed every time it came out of his mouth.

Can someone please explain what a blue steel look is? (In reference to MMaSM)? I keep thinking about the Jamie Lee Curtis movie, and I doubt that's what everyone means.


Dana - Apr 05, 2008 5:11:48 pm PDT #4316 of 23273
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's a reference to Zoolander.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 05, 2008 5:18:00 pm PDT #4317 of 23273
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's a reference to Zoolander.

I also think it's the word that's used to describe the color of gun metal. Besides gunmetal, I guess.

Signed,

Knows too many people who paint lead miniatures.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2008 7:20:22 pm PDT #4318 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Blue Steel in a blog: [link]

With this show, you were watching your SO have all these adventures while you were alone, which I think would amplify those feelings of being sad and lonely. You're kinda watching the highlight reel and there's no context. Plus there wasn't any adjustment period of having this person back and hearing their side of things.

Yeah, I think that's it, totally. If the person is already back home, you've heard their side before being confronted with whatever images end up on TV, as well as having them right there.

So boring that at the moment I can't even remember the name of the man who was the main draw for the show. Anyway, his dismissal line was "See you later, decorator." I cringed every time it came out of his mouth.

Aw, I still love Jonathan Adler. Love!


Liese S. - Apr 05, 2008 8:03:39 pm PDT #4319 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

With this show, you were watching your SO have all these adventures while you were alone, which I think would amplify those feelings of being sad and lonely.

Yeah, and I think part of it was that we got to see the familial reunions before the cast members had seen the show. They still didn't quite know how they were being depicted, or what things looked like on the outside. It was just bizarre.


Kristen - Apr 05, 2008 9:15:33 pm PDT #4320 of 23273

I will say that I did love Ronnie's mom and her, "They're just friends," to Ben's wife. It cracked me up.