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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


kat perez - Mar 23, 2008 6:50:21 pm PDT #3988 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I did not enjoy Br8kSk8t and I think they probably shouldn't have been put on the show in the first place. No matter how hard they tried to spin it, they were not, in fact a dance group any more than would have been a group of hip hop ice dancers or hip hop bicyclers or any other group who didn't primarily, you know, dance . . . on their own two feet . . . without the aid of other movement devices. But that was not the judges' fault. They didn't pick the crews who got onto the show. And once Br8kSk8t were on the show, the only thing the judges could do was comment on what they brought to the stage each week. Which objectively was very good, for what it was. Which was skating. Not dancing. But again, not the judges' fault.

ETA: I loved Lil' Mama. Thought she was a better judge than Shane and she was stupid funny and clearly enjoying herself. She was death on calling out mistakes and dancers who didn't mesh with their crews. She hated sloppiness (as do I when you're supposed to be moving as a group) and she was actually really knowledgable about dance (even when she was mistakenly calling out "ronde de jambe" like she did in the Fish and Chicks routine). I thought the judge panel, for the most part, rocked.


Kathy A - Mar 23, 2008 7:04:17 pm PDT #3989 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Mike Rowe has that kind of appeal that other men totally don't get, I think.

What's not to get? He's good looking, has a great sense of humor, is articulate and obviously intelligent, and doesn't have a problem with looking like an idiot on camera. All while doing a show that he has called a tribute to his father.

Damn. Now I need a cold shower.


Liese S. - Mar 24, 2008 7:50:22 am PDT #3990 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

(even when she was mistakenly calling out "ronde de jambe" like she did in the Fish and Chicks routine)

Ooh. Oh, good. I heard that comment and thought I just hadn't seen something right. Hee.


Jessica - Mar 24, 2008 3:41:47 pm PDT #3991 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Anthony Bourdain talks dirty to Michael Ruhlman.


Morgana - Mar 24, 2008 5:31:05 pm PDT #3992 of 23273
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Re: America's Best Dance Crew

Anyway, now I'm sucked into the dance crew show, damn you all, and I can't believe no one talked about Kaba Modern's wardrobe during the evolution of dance number! That was HOT.

I don't remember thinking that the costumes as such were all that hot, except for the rip-away pants the girls had on -- they were unexpected.

I loved Kaba Modern's dance through hip hop history (especially the N'Sync shout out!). It's utter crap that they are gone and Status Quo lives to dance another day. The final two totally should've been a Kaba/Jabba battle to the death. That would've been amazing.

Kaba's choreography was well-done and the transitions were SO much smoother than Status Quo's -- Status Quo's history dance was really a mess. If they hadn't had immunity I don't think they'd be there for the finale. (And if I can say so, WTF was up with the jack-in-the-box/clown tribute to hip hop? Maybe it's just because I share Sam Winchester's clown phobia, but that whole routine did nothing for me.)

And word on missing Live in Color. They were robbed the week they got voted off. And that was all on the judges, can't even blame it on the fans. They chose to save Fish and Chicks after Live in Color did that vampire number which was off the chain.

There were a number of weeks that Fish and Chicks, or even Br8kSk8t, got saved that I was thinking it should have gone to Live in Color. I did agree with JC that some of their moves were getting repetitive, but they should have been around longer.

I think that they need to swap out Li'l Mama - her criticism is at times incoherent.

I have to agree. It's not that she doesn't make reasonable statements sometimes, but more often it seems that gibberish is coming out of her mouth. Seriously, it's not that it's slang or anything, it's just incoherent utterances that make Shane and JC and Mario laugh at her, but serve no useful purpose otherwise.

I just saw Jabba's routine for "All That Jazz" again, and I am marvelling at it. I must admit that the very first time I saw it it left me flat. I think part of that is because I was thrown by the music being so alien to what I am used to hearing that I was thrown by the differences between the traditional version of the song and the "master remix" they used. But the more I see of Jabba's routine, the more I am flat-out impressed at that small bit of genius.


Liese S. - Mar 24, 2008 7:05:03 pm PDT #3993 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

What does that mean, "master remix," exactly?

And yeah, that was an incredible routine. I loved the end bit where they were the band so much. It was perfect and crazy and a tribute but still stylized in that Jabba way.


Vortex - Mar 24, 2008 8:12:31 pm PDT #3994 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I can't find america's best dance crew with the tivo. when does it come on? what channel?


le nubian - Mar 24, 2008 8:17:32 pm PDT #3995 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

mtv. it is "randy jackson presents america's best dance crew"


Vortex - Mar 25, 2008 5:20:31 am PDT #3996 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

aha! that's probably why Tivo couldn't find it, cause Randy had his name all over it :)


Liese S. - Mar 25, 2008 7:36:35 am PDT #3997 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, I finally saw the "History of" and it was awesome, as advertised. It was funny, though, they broadcast the ad for the finale right at the beginning of the episode, so I was all, well, lose the suspense, why dontcha? But I knew already, so oh well.

It sucks that they had to have their final routine all worked up but couldn't get to perform it, though, huh?