This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - Oct 22, 2007 8:43:35 am PDT #2398 of 23273
brillig

I wonder if Bourdain's allowed to appear in shows on the same network as Rachael Ray, or if she's afraid he'll hunt her down.


victor infante - Oct 22, 2007 9:00:49 am PDT #2399 of 23273
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I wonder if Bourdain's allowed to appear in shows on the same network as Rachael Ray, or if she's afraid he'll hunt her down.

I don't think Bourdain's allowed anywhere near The Food Network anymore except in late-night reruns of "A Cook's Tour." The relationship is acrimonious, to say the least. Also, rumor mill has Mario headed out The Food Network door, too, so I'd say the "Bourdain & Pals Drunken Christmas Special" is probably a lost cause to the Food Network. That being said ... Hellooooo, Bravo!


Connie Neil - Oct 22, 2007 9:45:19 am PDT #2400 of 23273
brillig

Bourdain shows up on The Travel Channel, so he and Mario could do a profane tour of Europe. Add Alton on a motorcycle, and you've got cable gold.


Scrappy - Oct 22, 2007 10:02:08 am PDT #2401 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I'll be in my bunk.


brenda m - Oct 22, 2007 10:27:31 am PDT #2402 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Poll question on the Survivor page at TWoP:

Sound Off
Going into the finale, whom are you rooting for?

>Earl
>Yau Man
>"Dreamz""
>Cassandra
>Boo

Um. (Not that I mind a flashback to the Best [half-]Season Evah!!1!)


sumi - Oct 22, 2007 10:32:55 am PDT #2403 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

TAR back on November 4th!!!

Shall we all dance on the corpse of Viva Laughlin ?


Morgana - Oct 22, 2007 4:07:36 pm PDT #2404 of 23273
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

MTV's SYTYCD marathon was awesome. I was flipping past and I thought they were doing season 3 again and then I saw Benji and Donyelle and was soooo excited. But watching it again just convinced me that this year's top 10 was much better than last year's (even with the Hunchback and Mischa Chan) but last year's top 10 was charm central. They were flat out entertainers, in the old Mickey and Judy, "Hey, kids! Let's put on a show!" mode. Oh and S2 choreographers kicked S3 in the ass. So many good routines that I had forgotten, especially the hip hop choreo . . . so much better than this year's crap.

I came across the marathon this weekend, and left it on for a bit while housecleaning because I've seen you guys raving about it. I'm not sure I see the total reason for the appeal. I mean, I've always been a sucker for dance routines, and always loved musicals. But I don't think anyone on that show danced for longer than 45 seconds. There was no time to build an atmosphere, or get enthralled with any of them. And apparently there are 3 "judges" who don't really vote on anything, they just provide commentary. One man actually sounded as though he knew about dance, they other man sounded equally reasonable, but the woman -- her role seemed to be to scream into the camera. Do the dancers actually choose their own music and costumes? They don't choose their own choreography.


askye - Oct 22, 2007 4:43:48 pm PDT #2405 of 23273
Thrive to spite them

SYTYCD is set up a lot like American Idol, but there are differences. They do have open auditions every where and the 3 judges who all have dance experience. There are 2 premanent judges - Nigel (who is a producer) and was a dancer/choreographer, Mary (the screaming lady), who was a ball room dancer/choreographer and then a "guest" judge pulled from the pool of choreographers.

Up until the Top 10 the judges make the final decision. The dancers dance, America votes, and then the bottom 3 men and bottom 3 women "dance for their lives" and then the judges decide which 2 go home. It goes like that until the Top 10, when America's votes finally count.

Mary, I think, started out sounding normal, but her screams became her thing and now she does it more and more. Grates my nerves and makes me think of her as more like Paula, because Mary has fewer and fewer constructive things to say.

All kinds of dancers audition -- breakers , ballet, modern, ballroom but they randomly draw types of dances each week. So you can have a modern dancer paired with a breaker doing a foxtrot, and that's what draws me in. Seeing dancers dance outside of their speciality and doing well.

Of course then you get them doing their thing and it's cool as well.

I think the dance routines are supposed to be 2 minutes long, and vary in style -- depending on which choreographers they use.


tiggy - Oct 22, 2007 4:49:37 pm PDT #2406 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

the dances are 1:30, i think. but yeah, what askye said.


kat perez - Oct 22, 2007 5:15:54 pm PDT #2407 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I will also point and say, what askye said. And agree that the judging across the board used to be much better than it is now (even Mary). Everyone they have on the panel actually has tons of dancing experience, but this season for sure (and to an extent S2) the judges have been much more about the AI style empty critiques. They used to get real down and dirty.

The thing I love about SYCYTD, that for me puts it head and shoulders above AI (though I loooove AI) is that the contestants are ridiculously talented. And many of the choreographers are very good. So you wind up with talented people doing well-choreographed routines that push them and help them grow as dancers. Revolutionary! And every now and again, you still get good critiques. If you ever catch an episode with Mia Michaels on panel, she gives good, constructive feedback. Dan Karaty, for all that he's a crap choreographer, is a good judge as well. Nigel (the creepy old British dude) sometimes gives good critiques as well, but sometimes uses his post to push his own personal agenda or try to be the low rent Simon Cowell. I miss Brian Friedman on the panel, because he always gave good critiques (and he was a diva bitch to boot which was delicious). Most of the rest of the rotating judges are useless. I guess I really love this show because I think, of all the "talent" reality shows (and I include PR and Top Chef and the like in this bunch), SYTYCD has by far the most consistently high talent level. Learning a new, possibly completely unfamiliar, style of dance well enough to present a polished routine every week is incredibly difficult. And later in the competition, these kids are learning two to three dances per week plus a group routine. I am in awe of that.