Shirley going on about Carlos only doing Mexican = @@.
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brenda m - Jan 23, 2014 5:19:32 pm PST #21700 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
kat perez - Jan 23, 2014 5:21:58 pm PST #21701 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar
Right? Like she and Nina don't use their background and culture to influence their cooking? Get over yourself, lady.
Still, I was very happy that they both made the finale and I'm all in for a Nina win.
brenda m - Jan 23, 2014 5:26:02 pm PST #21702 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Jessica - Jan 23, 2014 6:34:27 pm PST #21703 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Brenda, awesome!!
I hope Carlos comes back from Last Chance Kitchen and beats Nick's ass. At least Padma agrees with me - she seemed genuinely angry at Nick for his lack of salt and genuinely sad about telling Carlos to pack his knives.
kat perez - Jan 23, 2014 7:38:31 pm PST #21704 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar
Brenda, that's amazing. I would love to go to his restaurant and eat that seafood tamale. It looked delicious.
I'm pretty sure they are just keeping Nick around because he brings the drama. Feh.
Jesse - Jan 24, 2014 2:48:40 am PST #21705 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I'm really afraid they keep putting him through because subconsciously he looks more like a top chef. I can't decide if I'd prefer producer drama shenanigans or internalized racism/sexism....
Jessica - Jan 24, 2014 3:57:36 am PST #21706 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I can't decide if I'd prefer producer drama shenanigans or internalized racism/sexism....
Unfortunately, I suspect producer shenanigans are at least partially driven by internalized racism.
Jesse - Jan 24, 2014 7:13:11 am PST #21707 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
True, true.
le nubian - Jan 24, 2014 8:35:19 am PST #21708 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
So, I interpreted Shirley's comments to mean that Carlos' cooking is a bit narrow in flavor profiles and techniques.
I also feel that her comments have a lot to do with how long Carlos has been cooking. He is one of the newcomers, no? I don't know if he has been cooking professionally longer than Shirley though. So I was wondering if it was a time/status thing?
I knew Carlos was done as soon as he won the car.
brenda m - Jan 24, 2014 8:49:51 am PST #21709 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
So, I interpreted Shirley's comments to mean that Carlos' cooking is a bit narrow in flavor profiles and techniques.
Yes, but virtually all of hers are based on Chinese flavors and techniques. She's not necessarily wrong, just pot/kettleing a bit.
His restaurant is actually Mexican/French, but I think because most of his dishes sound more Mexican the French influence and techniques get a bit lost, particularly since the other chefs aren't generally tasting things.
I do get the sense that Carlos, not coming out of the culinary school path, possibly does not "speak chef" fluently if you know what I mean. It feels like there are some assumptions about how you interact that he's not quite on the same page with the others.
Partisan rant:
Only one of y'all has a Michelin star (and just awarded again this year), and it's not you, Shirley, Nina or Dickhead.