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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


victor infante - Aug 09, 2007 6:39:03 am PDT #1484 of 23273
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't know that Howie is necessarily a misogynist. He was just as big of an asshole to Joey. I think that we've just seen him in conflict with women more.

It was different. First off, Joey started it with him. When it came to Casey, Sara and Sarah, he pretty much made it clear that he doesn't think any of them have any business being chefs, and whereas, instead of a macho "blowing off steam," like it was with Joey, he relentlessly lit into his female competitors, attacking their abilities, their maturity, their characters. Go back and watch how he interacts with these women. There's a deep, seething loathing boiling out of him. He's got big-time issues.


Vortex - Aug 09, 2007 7:29:09 am PDT #1485 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't know why nobody got on Sara to get more burgers made -- how difficult is it to communicate that?

I know. people were too wrapped up in their own thing. CJ is the one who should have realized that there was an issue and told Sara to step it up, since he was in front and knew how quickly the food was coming out.

When it came to Casey, Sara and Sarah, he pretty much made it clear that he doesn't think any of them have any business being chefs,

his hate of Casey was clearly because she's pretty, which is misogynistic, but so common that I didn't even think about it. I saw his issues with Sara(h) (the one who didn't get kicked off) as issues with her cooking and style. I would have had issues with what she was doing, but I also think that she would have worked better with communication and collaboration, which Howie doesn't know how to do.

Howie is a bully, and bullies pick on people weaker than they are. When Casey stepped up in this challenge, he left her alone. He's also a shitty team player, because he will throw anyone under the bus in the most negative way possible to save his own ass. His comments about Sara were unsolicited and completely derogatory.


victor infante - Aug 09, 2007 7:46:24 am PDT #1486 of 23273
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

His comments about Sara were unsolicited and completely derogatory.

Exactly. All around, I think he's a pretty depolorable human being, and I think it's past the point where the edit can be blamed.

Whereas Hung, who is completely egotistical and self-serving, at the very least seems capable of working with others (Joey fiasco aside -- you can't work with someone who won't listen.)

C.J. needs to step up a bit and call bullshit a little stronger. It's obvious he sees it, but hasn't found the fortitude to keep order. I think it's his challenge to move on from being a cook to being a leader.

Whereas Tres? My god, the man has finally hit the stride his early showings promised. Currently my chef to beat.


sumi - Aug 09, 2007 7:49:48 am PDT #1487 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Oh yeah, Tre is looking good for the win.

Can't decide who else I'd like to see in the finale: but I can imagine that Malarkey will be there and possibly CJ.

Hung is kind of washing out for me -- he's doing crazy stuff or bad stuff - he really hasn't had a good day in weeks.


SuziQ - Aug 09, 2007 7:59:17 am PDT #1488 of 23273
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Cauliflower.

How could that EVER possibly be good with/on/in ice cream?


victor infante - Aug 09, 2007 8:02:54 am PDT #1489 of 23273
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Hung is kind of washing out for me -- he's doing crazy stuff or bad stuff - he really hasn't had a good day in weeks.

It's telling he hasn't won anything yet (besides a Quickfire). Whereas I think a few of the chefs took some time to adapt to the situation they're in, with it's unique pressures and constraints, I think Hung's floundering because of his own ego and inflexibility.

I also don't want to count Casey out -- she's sharp, and a lot of her failures have been interesting. I think she may make it to at least near the end, if not the finale.


sumi - Aug 09, 2007 9:16:25 am PDT #1490 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, Casey is another one not afraid to take a risk in the challenges.

Hopefully, the linked video will be the one where Dale talks about what was in Casey's ice cream in addition to that hot pepper sauce.


sumi - Aug 09, 2007 9:21:27 am PDT #1491 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

ION, an interview with Sparkle!Josh and Scott from Design Star.


Sean K - Aug 09, 2007 10:09:34 am PDT #1492 of 23273
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

his hate of Casey was clearly because she's pretty, which is misogynistic, but so common that I didn't even think about it.

Just the fact that we live in a world like this is making me a little sad.

Hung is kind of washing out for me -- he's doing crazy stuff or bad stuff - he really hasn't had a good day in weeks.

It's telling he hasn't won anything yet (besides a Quickfire). Whereas I think a few of the chefs took some time to adapt to the situation they're in, with it's unique pressures and constraints, I think Hung's floundering because of his own ego and inflexibility.

This. Hung's talk about being an asshole is clearly just talk. But his inability to step outside of his own head and see what other people are seeing (and tasting, and frelling wanting to taste) is making me really hate him. It's one of my pet peeves.

I also don't want to count Casey out -- she's sharp, and a lot of her failures have been interesting. I think she may make it to at least near the end, if not the finale.

And this. Casey's becoming my chef to beat (though I still haven't seen last night's ep). And even though she's had some teary moments, she seems to have the emotional stability and fortitude to go all the way.


JZ - Aug 09, 2007 12:20:11 pm PDT #1493 of 23273
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Casey's becoming my chef to beat (though I still haven't seen last night's ep). And even though she's had some teary moments, she seems to have the emotional stability and fortitude to go all the way.

Sean is me, right down to the not-having-seen-last-night-yet (it taunted me from the Tivo just a few minutes ago when I went home to get Emmett his lunch). Though Tre is right up there, too.

Ergh. I expect I'll have to hate Howie after I watch this episode. And, yeah, it is different with the women -- the testosterone flareup with Joey, especially with all the buddy-buddieness afterwards, felt fundamentally different from his pure cold contempt for the women he's teamed with.

But without Howie's dickishness, I guess we wouldn't have Ted's loveliest blog ever. I heart him so very, very much.

Tre just shucked his shirt and handled business in his wife beater (mmmmmm, he can cook for me ANYTIME)

::whimper:: Bunk now.