Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jul 24, 2007 9:44:34 am PDT #9760 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I remember watching the Tour with my dad before I was aware of all the shenanigans. Now I look and...I can't care. The poor sportsmanship on the parts of those who have been caught or are strongly suspect in recent years ....meh. Bad taste in my mouth.

That's a big part of what I meant when I say they need to take a new approach. Because, dude, doping or no, what they're doing and accomplishing is fucking incredible.

A more rational perspective on doping - I mean, is what Vino did seriously all that different from having gatorade instead of water in your bottle? - might let people see that more. Not to mention eliminating the constant and increasing embarrasment the Tour and other marquee races are threatening to become.


lisah - Jul 24, 2007 9:48:32 am PDT #9761 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

We all feel like frauds about something, right? (Right? Tell me you do, or I'm going to cry.)

Hah! yes, of course.

They just have a well and deliberately managed impostor syndrome.

I guess...And I guess they also must just be thinking it's not wrong to do. It's against the rules but not wrong.


tommyrot - Jul 24, 2007 9:49:23 am PDT #9762 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And I guess they also must just be thinking it's not wrong to do. It's against the rules but not wrong.

People can rationalize all sorts of things.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 24, 2007 9:56:08 am PDT #9763 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think that most people, unless they are sociopaths, rationalize all the bad stuff they do. I mean, evil people don't think they are evil-- I think in their head they are doing the right thing or they are entitled to do the wrong thing.

When I worked at Penney's, several employees who got caught stealing from the company or from customers seemed to think that they were entitled because Penney's didn't pay them enough, or they were panicked by money problems. These were people I knew and liked, at least well enough. They were "normal" The one I was closest with actually used my associate number as part of the scam.


Stephanie - Jul 24, 2007 9:57:12 am PDT #9764 of 10001
Trust my rage

great rider, but also an utterly ruthless bastard

I think this is probably true. All the people around him seem either super careful/subserviant or they eventually become enemies. I can totally see how a world class athlete, but especially a cyclist, could become an over the top control freak.


tommyrot - Jul 24, 2007 10:09:38 am PDT #9765 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

[link]

The largest island in the world is Greenland, the largest lake in the world is the Caspian Sea. But what about the largest lake that's on an island? Or the biggest island in the middle of a lake? This webpage takes those types of questions to the obsessive-compulsive extreme, eventually identifying the largest island on earth that's in a lake, that's situated on an island, that happens to be in a lake, that itself is located on an island.


flea - Jul 24, 2007 10:11:32 am PDT #9766 of 10001
information libertarian

I was so hoping the url was www.iamobsessedwithlakesandislands.org.

Sad now. But also, pleased to bring you, courtesy of Suela, possibly the craxxiest person on the internets: [link]


juliana - Jul 24, 2007 10:13:08 am PDT #9767 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

courtesy of Suela, possibly the craxxiest person on the internets: [link]

I just finished reading that wank, and sit here boggled. Though I now need to make an icon that says, "Anakin Skywalker. He knows batshit crazy."


flea - Jul 24, 2007 10:14:04 am PDT #9768 of 10001
information libertarian

ARE YOU CALLING ME A SODOMITE?????


brenda m - Jul 24, 2007 10:19:48 am PDT #9769 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Good holy god.