Haven't you killed me enough for one day?
Mal ,'War Stories'
Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Allyson - Jul 24, 2007 8:21:30 am PDT #9704 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Vortex - Jul 24, 2007 8:22:37 am PDT #9705 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I'm confused. It seems to be related to a blood transfusion?
It said two distinctive types of red blood cells were found in the A sample and showed that Vinokourov received a blood transfusion from a compatible donor shortly before the time trial.
What's the issue?
Dana - Jul 24, 2007 8:23:37 am PDT #9706 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Blood doping is the practice of illicitly boosting the number of red blood cells (RBCs) in the circulation in order to enhance athletic performance. Because they carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles, more RBCs in the blood can improve an athlete’s aerobic capacity and stamina.
amych - Jul 24, 2007 8:29:00 am PDT #9707 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Plus, given that Vino will get a two-year ban, and he's something like 33, this will probably end his career.
He was talking retirement after this season anyway, so that's not as much of an issue -- in fact, I wonder if "this is my last chance to win" played a part in the stupid (I thought the same thing last year with Landis).
It seems to be related to a blood transfusion?
It's called "blood doping", and it used to be pretty much undetectable -- instead of shooting up with hormones or steroids, inject a lot of extra red blood cells to boost your oxygen-carrying capabilities. But then they started testing the actual cells, so nsm undetectable any more.
(Smart idiots dope with their own blood.)
Also, DAMN IT.
eta: I'm surprised that the whole team pulled out, since Klöden was a much more serious contender in the race than Vino at this point. On the one hand, it's totally Vino's team, so it might just be that. On the other, I wonder if they fessed up to organization-wide shenanigans. And of course cycling is really good at off-handedly saying, "oh, yeah, something huge happened last month sometime" so we may never get a proper announcement.
tommyrot - Jul 24, 2007 8:29:43 am PDT #9708 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
(Smart idiots dope with their own blood.)
I was just gonna ask why he didn't do this....
Jesse - Jul 24, 2007 8:30:34 am PDT #9709 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I was too! And was thinking maybe you can't store blood long enough to make your own back. But I guess no.
Dana - Jul 24, 2007 8:30:45 am PDT #9710 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
He was talking retirement after this season anyway
I hadn't realized he was that old until a few days ago. Poor Kloden, too.
Typo Boy - Jul 24, 2007 8:32:46 am PDT #9711 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
If you end up doing interviews from home (for evening or weekend programs) I wonder if skype would work. Voice over internet - $29 a year for all you can eat calls within U.S. and Canada, and very cheap call s outside the U.S. (You also need headset with mike) .I've had good luck with voice quality - better any of our local cell phone companies. Don't know if voice quality is good enough for radio.
Rick - Jul 24, 2007 8:35:06 am PDT #9712 of 10001
(Smart idiots dope with their own blood.)
I expect that this will be detectable soon. The blood cells that you generated a year ago are slightly different than those you created last week, and new tools of proteomics should make it possible to tell when two populations of cells are present.
Dana - Jul 24, 2007 8:39:16 am PDT #9713 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Phil Ligget on Vino:
...such a stupid action at a time the sport looked to be putting its own house in order. It is incomprehensible that Vinokourov could do such a thing when he must have known he was under suspicion because of his dealing with disgraced doctor Michele Ferrari in Italy. He must have known he would be tested at every opportunity and the time trial was the perfect occasion.