I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2007 11:03:24 am PDT #9561 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've never been asked those personal sorts of questions, and I'm not sure how I'd feel working for somewhere that thought it was okay.

However, I have been asked for samples of documents I'd prepared for previous employers, and well, patently not mine to distribute and I said so.

Still got the gig.

I love that there's a wank!wiki.

I found this Byrne-related article which includes the quote I'd been thinking of:

Personal prejudice: Hispanic and Latino women with blond hair look like hookers to me, no matter how clean or cute they are.

"Personal prejudice" reads to me here like "no insult intended."


beekaytee - Jul 23, 2007 11:04:12 am PDT #9562 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

The advice about being prepared with concrete, progressive goals is right on though.

Exactly. Having a decision tree-like, if this...then that, strategy is really useful.

I have to admit, I've never been upset over a non-bfoq question. When faced with them, I've generally asked something like, "Is that an important part of the organizational culture?" Or "That's a interesting point. I wonder how that effects people here." If it is a major issue (like the fundamentalist tendencies of an org I once interviewed with), the interviewer has done me the favor of hipping me to something that could be a real problem down the road. Rather know now, then later.

eta:

Our instructor pointed out that aside from HR reps, many interviewers don't know what the rules actually are, hence the need to be prepared for wacko and possibly illegal questions.

This is more often the case as not, I think.


Dana - Jul 23, 2007 11:05:16 am PDT #9563 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Be ready to discuss your goals for each major area of your life: career, personal development and learning, family, physical (health), community service and (if your interviewer is clearly a religious person) you could very briefly and generally allude to your spiritual goals (showing you are a well-balanced individual with your values in the right order).

That gives me hives.


amych - Jul 23, 2007 11:07:33 am PDT #9564 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Our instructor pointed out that aside from HR reps, many interviewers don't know what the rules actually are, hence the need to be prepared for wacko and possibly illegal questions.

Oh, agreed -- but be prepared as in, "sidestep gracefully without getting so flustered as to blow the interview" rather than as in "go ahead and answer anyway."


Trudy Booth - Jul 23, 2007 11:08:01 am PDT #9565 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Any good sports bra suggestions? Starting mixed martial arts program next week and would prefer not to, you know, bounce...

Anything that hooks in the front? That would be glorious, I hate wiggling out of those things.


Miracleman - Jul 23, 2007 11:10:05 am PDT #9566 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I always hate the goal question. Usually I'm in such a position that the answer which leaps immediately to mind is: "Get a paycheck, Dork-o. I'll think past that when rent's paid."

I've never had anyone ask me about family planning, religion or anything besides the "goals" and "how do you think you could be an asset" questions, really.

As to my gut answer to the "assets" question, is is usually: "I'll show up."


meara - Jul 23, 2007 11:10:33 am PDT #9567 of 10001

Oh, agreed -- but be prepared as in, "sidestep gracefully without getting so flustered as to blow the interview" rather than as in "go ahead and answer anyway."

Yes, totally. But "sidestep gracefully" can be hard! And while I tend to go with "go ahead and answer", it's not the best plan either. And trying to desperately make up my mind what I can/will say tends to come out sounding stuttering and insane.


Trudy Booth - Jul 23, 2007 11:12:23 am PDT #9568 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I suppose on a flat-out illegal question you'd be safe lying and telling them precisely what they want to hear...

"But you SAID you weren't going to have a baby..."


meara - Jul 23, 2007 11:15:43 am PDT #9569 of 10001

I suppose on a flat-out illegal question you'd be safe lying and telling them precisely what they want to hear...

But see, that's where, if you're interviewing with anyone vaguely normal, you start sounding insane..."I have no goals but to help my company succeed. My life is centered around work, and I shun things such as boyfriends or pets, that distract me from putting 100% effort in!"

That said, the recruiters I've worked with often ask, in a gently-couched sort of way, what my circumstances are (since I"m looking for a job with relocation)--do I rent or own, do I have someone else who would also need to be relocated, etc etc. Conveniently I've been able to answer that I am footloose and fancy free, but I"m not sure what I'd say otherwise!


Theodosia - Jul 23, 2007 11:17:20 am PDT #9570 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

What's sad is that how you answer questions can be a lousy indicator of how you actually do the job. Nice way to have a glib set of incompetents end up managing your company. :: she typed, not at all bitter ::