You all gonna be here when I wake up?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Jul 19, 2007 9:38:49 am PDT #8871 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

because I wanted to see if you had any Dr. Who recs.

We do. And Torchwood. Would you like me to send them to you?


Sophia Brooks - Jul 19, 2007 9:40:15 am PDT #8872 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That would be great, Dana! I like to print off stuff for the busride home. I am at nbrookstaylor at gmail dot com.


DavidS - Jul 19, 2007 9:45:34 am PDT #8873 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Today's random Wikipedia entry before I go off to write:

Abu Musa Jabir ibn Hayyan (Arabic: جابر بن حيان) (c. 721–c. 815), known also by his Latinized name Geber, was a prominent Shia Muslim polymath, chemist, alchemist, pharmacist, philosopher, astronomer, astrologer, engineer, physician and physicist. He has been widely referred to as the "father of chemistry".

Jabir is mostly renowned for his contributions to the modern discipline of chemistry, though at the time it was pre-alchemy. He emphasized systematic experimentation, and did much to free alchemy from superstition and turn it into a science. He is credited with the invention of many types of now-basic chemical laboratory equipment, and with the discovery and description of many now-commonplace chemical substances and processes – such as the hydrochloric and nitric acids, distillation, and crystallisation – that have become the foundation of today's chemistry and chemical engineering.

He clearly recognised and proclaimed the importance of experimentation. "The first essential in chemistry", he declared, "is that you should perform practical work and conduct experiments, for he who performs not practical work nor makes experiments will never attain the least degree of mastery."

Jabir is also credited with the invention and development of several chemical instruments that are still used today. By distilling various salts together with sulfuric acid, Jabir discovered hydrochloric acid (from salt) and nitric acid (from saltpeter). By combining the two, he invented aqua regia, one of the few substances that can dissolve gold. Besides its obvious applications to gold extraction and purification, this discovery would fuel the dreams and despair of alchemists for the next thousand years. He is also credited with the discovery of citric acid (the sour component of lemons and other unripe fruits), acetic acid (from vinegar), and tartaric acid (from wine-making residues).

Jabir applied his chemical knowledge to the improvement of many manufacturing processes, such as making steel and other metals, preventing rust, engraving gold, dyeing and waterproofing cloth, tanning leather, and the chemical analysis of pigments and other substances. He developed the use of manganese dioxide in glassmaking, to counteract the green tinge produced by iron — a process that is still used today. He noted that boiling wine released a flammable vapor, thus paving the way to Al-Razi's discovery of ethanol.

The seeds of the modern classification of elements into metals and non-metals could be seen in his chemical nomenclature. He proposed three categories: "spirits" which vaporise on heating, like camphor, arsenic, and ammonium chloride; "metals", like gold, silver, lead, copper, and iron; and "stones" that can be converted into powders.

Freakin' genius! King of acid.

Also, of etymological interest...

Jabir states in his Book of Stones (4:12) that "The purpose is to baffle and lead into error everyone except those whom God loves and provides for". His works seem to have been deliberately written in highly esoteric code, so that only those who had been initiated into his alchemical school could understand them. It is therefore difficult at best for the modern reader to discern which aspects of Jabir's work are to be read as symbols (and what those symbols mean), and what is to be taken literally. Because his works rarely made overt sense, the term gibberish is believed to have originally referred to his writings.


sarameg - Jul 19, 2007 9:47:35 am PDT #8874 of 10001

... no one got (or more likely, wisely ignored) my lameass car joke....

Blarg. I'm having to get all pissy with support. There is no reason it should take a week to get access to a table. It's one line!


Frankenbuddha - Jul 19, 2007 10:00:58 am PDT #8875 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Freakin' genius! King of acid.

At least until Owsley came along.


Zenkitty - Jul 19, 2007 10:07:34 am PDT #8876 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Alchemy carried on his tradition of writing in near-indecipherable code forever.

Anyone else familiar with the Voynich manuscript?


Nora Deirdre - Jul 19, 2007 10:12:55 am PDT #8877 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

In the "Oh, Color Me So Very Surprised" Department:

BREAKING NEWS: A federal judge has dismissed former CIA operative Valerie Plame's lawsuit accusing members of the Bush administration of leaking her identity, the Associated Press is reporting.


Jesse - Jul 19, 2007 10:39:25 am PDT #8878 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have had more stupid work interactions today than I usually do when I'm there. WTF? I think I'm going to get back in bed again.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 19, 2007 10:47:04 am PDT #8879 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Happy Birthday SA!

Anyone else familiar with the Voynich manuscript?

Yes. Though I was very surprised at one point to discover it wasn't a Necronomicon-esque semi-hoax on the part of Colin Wilson.

In other news, at least Nick Nolte is friendly when collapsing into a stupor: [link]


Allyson - Jul 19, 2007 10:55:45 am PDT #8880 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Help me out with something puzzling me.

The NYT review of HP includes this statement:

With each installment, the “Potter” series (redacted for spoiler) — a copy of which was purchased at a New York City store yesterday, though the book is embargoed for release until 12:01 a.m. on Saturday —

Some folks on LJ are reading this to mean that the NYT reviewer went out and purchased a copy of the book, illegally to do the review.

I think it was just a poorly edited statement of fact, because, seriously, the NY fucking T didn't get an ARC for Harry fucking Potter? Seriously?