I seen you without your clothes on before. Never thought I'd see you naked.

Mal ,'Trash'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jul 18, 2007 4:43:13 pm PDT #8754 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hey, we're both right!

Among the Romanian peasantry, Vlad Ţepeş was remembered as a just prince who defended his people from foreign aggression, whether those foreigners were Turkish invaders or German merchants. He is also remembered as a champion of the common man against the oppression of the boyars.

However, despite the more positive interpretation, the Romanian oral tradition also remembers Vlad as an exceptionally cruel and often capricious ruler....Outside of Romanian folklore the reputation of Vlad Ţepeş is considerably darker...Impalement was Vlad's favourite method of torture but was by no means his only one. The list of tortures he is alleged to have employed is extensive: [whitefonting]
nails in heads, cutting off of limbs, blinding, strangulation, burning, cutting off of noses and ears, mutilation of sexual organs (especially in the case of women), scalping, skinning, exposure to the elements or to animals, and boiling alive.
An old Romanian story says that one could even leave a bag of gold in the middle of the street, then return and pick it up the next day, as people were so afraid to commit crimes during his reign due to these horrific means of torture and capital punishment.

No one was immune to Vlad the Impaler's attentions. His victims included women and children, peasants and great lords, ambassadors from foreign powers and merchants. Nevertheless, the vast majority of his European victims came from the merchants and boyars of Transylvania and his own country, Wallachia.

This would make a neat tattoo, if you ignored the history: [link]

[The Order of the Dragon (German: Drachenorden; Hungarian: Sárkány Lovagrend; Latin: Societas Draconistrarum) was an order of selected nobles modeled on the Order of Saint George of Hungary. The order was founded in 1408 by Sigismund, King of Hungary, and his second wife Barbara Cilli. The defeated dragon is a symbol of the destruction of heresy. The Order flourished in Germany and Italy. Members of the Order were known as draconists. So I guess it's not just about Vlad.]


msbelle - Jul 18, 2007 4:59:36 pm PDT #8755 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Sue - I owe you email. I got it. just unorganized right now.


Zenkitty - Jul 18, 2007 5:06:00 pm PDT #8756 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Hey, we're both right!

Cool!


ChiKat - Jul 18, 2007 5:09:10 pm PDT #8757 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Oooohhhh....thunderstorm!!!


Sue - Jul 18, 2007 5:10:07 pm PDT #8758 of 10001
hip deep in pie

No probs, msbelle. I know form unorganized. I just found out today that the houseguest I was expecting next Friday is arriving day after tomorrow.Yikes! I missed a memo somewhere.

Thank god my house is reasonably presentable, even if the DR is half painted.


brenda m - Jul 18, 2007 5:10:19 pm PDT #8759 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Crap. I appear to be stuck between a rock torrential downpour and a hard place unwalked dog. I may be swimming sooner than planned.


JenP - Jul 18, 2007 5:12:06 pm PDT #8760 of 10001

unwalked dog. I may be swimming sooner than planned.

In rain, I dearly hope.


Burrell - Jul 18, 2007 5:14:23 pm PDT #8761 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Congratulations, brenda!

msbelle, I feel for you with the bathing woes. In fact, give me a few minutes and I'll probably be reliving your pain.


msbelle - Jul 18, 2007 5:20:21 pm PDT #8762 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh the mad was not about bath. bathtime just happened when mad was still going on. mac is VERY quick to temper. and he says things he doesn't really mean when mad and I really haven't held him to much of it. Well tonight he decided he was unhappy with the toy with his BK meal. Super dramatic "I DO NOT WANT IT. IT IS NOT GOOD. IT DOES NOTHING" shoving it back at me. ok, so it was mine. which I said. And there was no issue from him until it was time to go and now he wanted the toy. I explained that the toy was mine and stayed calm and he was FURIOUS and pretty much stayed so for the 5 blocks home and then bath time and I refused to deal with him unless he talked nicely to me. Bath actually finally calmed him down and we didn't have another flair up until end of book time. But some nights we go from laughing hugging mac to yelling mac 5-6 times from 6pm to 9pm.


msbelle - Jul 18, 2007 5:35:11 pm PDT #8763 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

sorry to kill the thread with uncute mac news.