Right. Sir. Honey.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Spike's Bitches 36: Did I Sully Our Good Name?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


SuziQ - Aug 03, 2007 6:58:04 am PDT #9819 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Happy Birthday, Deena!!!!


beekaytee - Aug 03, 2007 7:00:52 am PDT #9820 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

JZ's commemorative plate just made my heart burst. How incredibly sweet and supportive and, yeah...awkward.

On the telling vs. dishonesty point:

I just got off the phone with a client talking about how disclosing everything all the time can be more about inviting people to share your negative self image than it is about doing something honorable or for the other person.

The question was: is it 'slimy' to not disclose guilt feelings about something that was inherently not guilt-worthy.

Answer in the form of a question: How is the sharing of those feelings going to make up for what you think you did wrong?

I love my work.


Laura - Aug 03, 2007 7:09:24 am PDT #9821 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Bev, so good to read the news. Phew!

My mom has come a long way. From having no warning at all about getting a period and no discussion ever anytime about The Sex, to assisting when I had my first child and talking about the "wet jock" contest at the resort where she and step-dad were staying. Still, no commemorative plate. I think I love JZ's mom.


Fred Pete - Aug 03, 2007 7:12:09 am PDT #9822 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Okay, maybe this is male cluelessness coming out.

I can see that at least one parent needs to know when a daughter's periods start. At the very least, daughter will need those feminine products that are so often advertised with flowing dresses, rainbows, and sunsets.

But why would a parent consider it a cause for celebration? Is it celebration of a dividing line between "girl" and "woman"?


Aims - Aug 03, 2007 7:13:04 am PDT #9823 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Is it celebration of a dividing line between "girl" and "woman"?

This. For some mothers. I for one, do not forsee myself throwing Emeline a Period Party or distributing anything but the feminine products of her choice.


SuziQ - Aug 03, 2007 7:14:23 am PDT #9824 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

My mom took K-Bug out clothes shopping to commemorate her period getting. Before I even knew a thing. Was kinda miffed in an odd way.

As for the sex stuff - yeah, the specifics of sexual activity do not need to be shared between the child/parentals. K-Bug and I get into interesting enough conversations as it is - I really don't want any real life details.


sj - Aug 03, 2007 7:15:09 am PDT #9825 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Beverly, I'm glad it was nothing.

~ma to ND's and Kristin's moms.


Trudy Booth - Aug 03, 2007 7:15:12 am PDT #9826 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

We had a nice dinner. And a cake -- but there was nothing written on the cake.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 03, 2007 7:17:58 am PDT #9827 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

No. But it had a pussy on it.

Hopefully NOT from the Dolores Umbridge collection.


beekaytee - Aug 03, 2007 7:19:21 am PDT #9828 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I lament the lack of ritual in our culture.

Transitions are important. Recognition of milestones helps to increase a sense of satisfaction and make sharp the line between success and incompletion.

Without ritual, everything becomes a big so-what? I think that is sad.