Oh, I get it. You just don't like who did the rescuing, that's all. Wishin' I was your boyfriend what's-his-height. Oh wait, he's run off.

Spike ,'Potential'


Experimental TV: Non-Fiction  

This thread is part of an experiment to discern the Buffistas' future interest in television discussion. It will remain open until June 1st, 2007, upon which date there will be spirited debate regarding the infinite possibilities for our board's development. This thread is for non-fiction tv, including but not limited to documentaries and reality shows. [NAFDA]


Jesse - May 20, 2007 3:56:16 pm PDT #608 of 767
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, I'm watching the last epsiode of the first season of Top Model, and it's fascinating to see the final three, given what I know about what's happened since. Elyse says, "Well, now that I'm eliminated from the show, that's it for modeling -- I'm going to be a doctor." As far as I know, she's still modeling. They keep saying about Adrienne, "Well, she's not going to be on the talk-show sofa talking like that" or whatever, and who's scraped together a reality-tv career?


Connie Neil - May 20, 2007 5:59:30 pm PDT #609 of 767
brillig

OK, I think I just caught the final of America's Next Top Model. What are those judges wearing! These people are deciding fashion? Was the one guy being attached by a rainbow?


Jesse - May 21, 2007 5:27:28 am PDT #610 of 767
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm guessing you're talking about Miss Jay? The black guy? He's crazy. He added a ruffle each week that someone got eliminated.

Also, they're not deciding fashion, just talking about the people wearing it.


Connie Neil - May 21, 2007 6:14:05 am PDT #611 of 767
brillig

I'm getting my reality shows confused. All I could think of was Ruby from Fifth Element, which is not something that inspires confidence. I do not think I'm the stuff of which reality show audiences are made.


sumi - May 21, 2007 6:46:24 am PDT #612 of 767
Art Crawl!!!

Have you guys been over to watch TNT's exit interviews (from Shear Genius)?

Being at home w/o sound, I can't but I hear that Tyson is all class and Tabitha still blames him for their ouster.


askye - May 21, 2007 6:53:35 am PDT #613 of 767
Thrive to spite them

I'll have to watch those when I get home.

I can't believe that the show is almost over, howeve, I'm kind of over it at this point and can't wait for Top Chef to start! Especially if the changes I read about really do happen.


Sean K - May 21, 2007 7:42:37 am PDT #614 of 767
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Especially if the changes I read about really do happen.

Changes? What changes?

Of the various iterations of the Bravo Reality Show that I've seen, Top Chef seems to be the one striving the hardest to give its judging and elimination process credibility (and also seems to be the one that gets the most grief about credibility, even though it has the most knowledgable and stringent judges). They also seem to be trying the hardest to make sure their challenge rules and judging criteria are very explicit and clearly understood by the contestants, possibly because they've had (arguably) the most problems with contestants and rules.

I haven't seen enough Project Runway to speak knowledgably on that show, but Top Design's judging never had a shot a credibility. And Shear Genius does have some credibility issues, and even bigger problems (from what we've seen, though it's created little on-show drama) with rules and judging criteria clarity, it also seems to be too cool to care about the precision and standards that Top Chef is looking for. But that's as a show about hairstylists should be.


sumi - May 21, 2007 7:51:34 am PDT #615 of 767
Art Crawl!!!

Changes are that NONE of the judges do a walk-through - all the judging is blind. Also, Ted Allen has been added to the cast. . . sadly, as a judge not a mentor.

I know that the second thing is true but the first thing is just a rumor so far. (Oh, and that they've added waitstaff and the waitstaff are also competing.)


Jessica - May 21, 2007 7:54:59 am PDT #616 of 767
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The major problem I see with Shear Genius' judging is that in real life, the only measure of how good (or at least successful) a stylist you are is how happy your clients are when they leave. You can rate technical skills to some degree, but when I walk out of a salon, I don't give a flying fuck what the editor of Allure magazine would think of my haircut. It's as much about catering to your client's taste as it is about having your own.

Likewise with Top Design, when you're designing a space for someone to live/work in, the only thing that's going to matter in the real world is how happy your clients are. If your client wants their office to be a hideous combination of lime and eggplant, it doesn't matter if those are "good" color choices or not, those are the colors you're going to use.

With PR and TC, the contestants are at least in fields where they'll have to appeal to a mass audience -- you're not making clothes for one person, you're making them for Average American Woman Age 18-44. And in a restaurant, your food needs to taste good to a wide enough variety of people that it can be judged as such in a relatively objective way.


Jesse - May 21, 2007 7:57:21 am PDT #617 of 767
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(Oh, and that they've added waitstaff and the waitstaff are also competing.)

Seriously?? Is Padma going to say, "Waiters, this is also a competition for you as well"???