They really are a lot nicer than Trini and Susannah (the Brit originals), but I do like the way that T & S manhandle the female makeovers' breasts when they're just flopping around due to bad bras. They're so out there with it!

Yes, the first guy was an asshat -- Clinton is so much better.

I hate that the American ones call breasts "girls" but so very much love it when they get a lady in a good bra! Makes such a huge difference. There's a lady in my office now who needs their help that way.

Yes, the first guy was an asshat -- Clinton is so much better

Oh, yeah, I hated that guy! Really, for the most part, Stacey & Clinton are pretty nice.

My favorite thing is when the women with too long hair cry about getting their hair cut. (It almost always ends up looking a million times better.) I also love when the girls on ANTM freak out about their makeovers. I'm just mean like that.

Vortex, wasn't your friend going to be on one of the first US episodes? I can see it taking a while for them to get their act together, attitude-wise.

It was 3 or 4 years ago, so possibly. I knew what the show was when they told me.

They had a different guy in the early seasons didn't they?

yeah, this bitchy guy with long grey streaked brown hair.

eta: I found this pic [link] , but it doesn't have a name

One of the first WNTW eps I saw years ago was one where a woman had gorgeously long, extra curly hair, and she flat out refused to let Nick touch it with his scissors. There was no way she was going to change her mind, so he ended up just adding some goop that made it curl even nicer and look even better. She was happy enough with that, but that was the only time I've ever seen Nick out-stubborned when it came to someone's hair. She was young enough that she got away with it, but there was another ep with a lady in her 40s (a horse trainer, IIRC), with a pony tail that went down to her butt. It was pretty, but she looked much better with the short 'do she ended up with.

There was a nanny with super long hair - like down to her butt or longer - that refused to cut her hair at all. So they ended up styling it the best they could.

OMG, what about the terrible woman -- a nanny, I think? -- who refused the hair cut, so Carmindy gave her a TON of makeup as a punishment! That one was bananas.

Nice crosspost.

Also, Vortex, I'm retroactively embarassed by how avidly I followed your friend's story, via meara. (It is the same friend, right? I figure not that many people walk off the set!)

OMG, what about the terrible woman -- a nanny, I think? -- who refused the hair cut, so Carmindy gave her a TON of makeup as a punishment! That one was bananas.

Bwah! Freakishly Long Hair! !!! If you have to make special arrangements when you are using the toilet, your hair is TOO LONG!

Wow! I can't believe I missed that one -- it sounds like a classic.