Reavers ain't men. Or they forgot how to be. Now they're just nothing. They got out to the edge of the galaxy, to that place of nothing, and that's what they became.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Experimental TV: Cable Drama  

This thread is an experiment to discern the Buffistas' interests in television discussion. It will be closed on June 1st, 2007, after which our community will engage in creative discourse about the future direction of our boards. This is the thread for cable aired drama. All discussion must be in whitefont, with the name of the show upfront, for 24 hours after the show airs, presumably in the US. No future spoilers in thread (take those to the spoiler thread for serious ones or spoilers light for casting type info).


lisah - Apr 24, 2007 10:46:04 am PDT #45 of 129
Punishingly Intricate

Never think of myself as tiny. Maybe by Hollywood standards, I'm not.

Oh that's his height "according to IMDB". So it's possible that he's two or three inches shorter than that.

ETA for example, Dominic West, an actor I've seen in real life is nowhere near 6' as his IMDB profile claims. He's maybe 5'8". Ginormous head to body ratio though. And, still hot as blazes.


Vortex - Apr 24, 2007 11:33:30 am PDT #46 of 129
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Hec groused a bit about how utterly stupid so many of the clan are, and how can they make a living as con artists if they're so damn dumb?

I took that as trying to make a point about inbreeding.


erikaj - Apr 24, 2007 11:46:37 am PDT #47 of 129
Always Anti-fascist!

No, Lisah, he's not. But I'd still like to make him feel better about that, if it bothers him. My aunt is 6'1 though and when she was single, she found out a lot of guys, uh, claimed a few extra inches.(And that didn't start out dirty...dag, just thinking of DW brings the porn!) But every guy wants to be 6'.


Sean K - Apr 24, 2007 11:53:56 am PDT #48 of 129
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I took that as trying to make a point about inbreeding.

"Because that's what happens when cousins marry...."

"Oh, you're a plumber. What on Earth is that?"


sj - Apr 24, 2007 4:20:21 pm PDT #49 of 129
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Damn good episode of "The Riches" this week. I kept thinking I knew what was going to happen, but it kept changing.


SailAweigh - Apr 24, 2007 4:24:13 pm PDT #50 of 129
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Whoops. Wrong thread.


Liese S. - Apr 24, 2007 5:32:38 pm PDT #51 of 129
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The Riches: It was good. Excellent and painful and real. Are we past the 24-hr whitefont yet? Since I'm a Tivo girl, I never know when anything airs, other than that it shows up for me to watch.


sumi - Apr 24, 2007 5:49:12 pm PDT #52 of 129
Art Crawl!!!

We will be in about 10 minutes.


Steph L. - Apr 24, 2007 6:51:55 pm PDT #53 of 129
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I just watched my tape of The Riches -- damn if Ken didn't make me cry. All noble and protective of DiDi and then suddenly genuinely scary when he threatened his sister.

Like lisah said, I expected him to just be Cletus the Slack-Jawed Traveller, but he turned out to have some surprising depth.


Liese S. - Apr 24, 2007 11:17:36 pm PDT #54 of 129
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The Riches: More painful and lovely Dahlia singing!

Okay, I thought this was an excellent ep for several character points, certainly including the startling and sure to be difficult Ken reveal. I liked it because of how tied in and intricate it seemed. How none of the characters had been forgotten, how each of their personal storylines seemed ongoing, regardless of the state of our heroes.

Also, on a purely shallow note, I thought DiDi looked completely gorgeous (if completely uncomfortable in her skin) in that wedding garb. I am so fascinated by the Traveller bits and environment and lore.

I find Dale compelling, although clearly sociopathic, and believable in his villainy. I think his love for Dahlia is genuine, and it just cuts even that much worse that his dad, not just his love, chose his rival over him. And that his mother, perhaps seeing his sickness, knowingly stood by that decision. How much more rejected could you get? And yet, he is a deeply disturbed person, and probably everyone is right for feeling the way they do.

His Commodus-style patricide was an awful, awful scene. It's made worse for me because it trips some of my helplessness & elderliness panic buttons. But the scene this ep was so striking because it was clear that his motive for killing his father had mixed up in it somewhere the knowledge that the funeral would bring Dahlia back. And he still believes, deep inside, that he can woo and win her away from Wayne. And if he can't, he'll kill Wayne, and you can bet he'll try to win her again then with him dead.

This is a horrible story. So horrible it feels absolutely real.

All the fakery back in Edenfalls (which, great name, btw, it just now occurs to me) is so much more interesting in contrast to what's going on here. But now you can see that maybe Wayne felt like he was always half faking it in Traveller culture and so half faking it in suburbia isn't so odd.

Okay, I've got more, but that's enough ramble for tonight.