River: You're not right, Early. You're not righteous. You've got issues. Early: No. Oh, yes, I could have that. You might have me figured out, then. Good job. I'm not 100%.

'Objects In Space'


Experimental TV: Network Drama  

This thread is an experiment to discern the Buffistas' interests in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which our community will assess our future direction. Discuss network aired drama here. [NAFDA]


esse - Apr 20, 2007 9:45:03 am PDT #91 of 820
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I think the thing about GA and the Izzie/George thing is that they're exploring it so they can drop it entirely. Like, whoops, that didn't work out, lets move on. Similar thing to Izzie and Alex, really. I mean, I wish they hadn't gone there at all, but I confess I'm not surprised.


Vortex - Apr 20, 2007 10:00:18 am PDT #92 of 820
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I was talking to a co-worker about GA and why people like Bailey. We decided that it's largely because she's so down-to-earth, no quibbles, no wavering, not much in the way of emotional baggage. She knows what she wants, she knows what's important, and she's working on that.

also, she doesn't play politics or favorites, and she admits when she's wrong. She took a lot of responsiblity for the Denny situation, because if she had been on her game, she would have realized what was going on and stepped in.


esse - Apr 20, 2007 10:32:52 am PDT #93 of 820
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I don't know, V, that felt a little contrived. She had a baby--it wasn't her game that was off. It was that the game had changed. Her priorities had changed, and they should have. It was a tragic thing, but it wasn't her fault. I understand why she took responsibility, but I think it was pretty heavy handed, and placing the onus of Denny's death on her was disappointing for me.


le nubian - Apr 20, 2007 10:45:22 am PDT #94 of 820
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

placing the onus of Denny's death on her was disappointing for me.

I concur. I thought it was bullshit, actually. I think it was evidence of poor characterization.


brenda m - Apr 20, 2007 10:50:10 am PDT #95 of 820
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't think even Bailey went there until the whole Burke/Christina thing started making her question herself, though. (A circumstance for which I will never forgive them. Nevah!) So it wasn't as out of left field as it might have been otherwise, but still not convincing.


Vortex - Apr 20, 2007 11:01:55 am PDT #96 of 820
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

but I think it was pretty heavy handed, and placing the onus of Denny's death on her was disappointing for me.

I dont' think that she blamed herself for his death, but the situation with Izzy cutting the LVAD


Toddson - Apr 20, 2007 11:22:50 am PDT #97 of 820
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

You know, I'm getting fed up with Izzie. The whole Denny thing, being nasty to Callie, then having sex with George - she's starting to make Meredith look reasonable. At least Mer mainly messes up her own life more than other people's.


-t - Apr 20, 2007 11:40:37 am PDT #98 of 820
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Izzie's tiresome. And I would be a little interested in the conflict between George's loyalty to his friend and his commitment to his wife if they hadn't gone and had the sex - now it's just clearly Calli is right and George and Izzie need to be smacked.

Jericho: I like the Jake/Hawkins show. And the Schuyler/Dale show - though what the hell is the mayor thinking, telling her she can't control the mine because her parents are alive somewhere, who exactly is supposed to protect their interests more than their daughter, minor or not? It's not like anyone has stepped in to help her, besides Dale. I klike the way they've set it up so that Schuyler and Dale have a big interest in mauntaining the sanctity of private property while the government, such as it is, inches towards socialism. That could get interesting.

The Hawkins' family drama seems like it could get cleared up by telling most of the truth - refugee girl that dad knew in St. Louis turned out to be crazy and threatened everyone, daughter shot her, dad panicked and buried the body, shouldn't've done that of course, but te killing was self-defense and he just wanted to protect his daughter. It fits what Sam saw, and it's deperate times, people would understand.

If they kill of Heather, well, I can probably walk away. She's by far my favorite character.

Gail is getting on my nerves.

That casting spoiler, that was for 24? Okay, I'll keep watching. Even if Mr. Grdenko apparently died under the boardwalk and no one went looking for him calling out "Is anyone alive in here" - was that too much to ask?


Jessica - Apr 20, 2007 11:48:53 am PDT #99 of 820
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Even if Mr. Grdenko apparently died under the boardwalk and no one went looking for him calling out "Is anyone alive in here"

That did seem very odd - that nobody in the government (ours or Russian) has noticed that the guy they'd spent the better part of the day and a huge amount of resources chasing apparently vanished without a trace.


-t - Apr 20, 2007 11:58:33 am PDT #100 of 820
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I supposed the shot of him face down in the waves doesn't absolutely confirm that he's dead, so he might show up again later today. That transition from we have the bombs, everything is okay, to now the Chinese are the bad guys and Jack's a rogue agent seemed very un-24-like, so some retconning down the road is okay with me.