Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


Experimental TV: Network Drama  

This thread is an experiment to discern the Buffistas' interests in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which our community will assess our future direction. Discuss network aired drama here. [NAFDA]


sumi - Apr 26, 2007 7:26:14 am PDT #205 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

No, her first year at Yale was in season 4. This is her 4th year.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 26, 2007 7:53:27 am PDT #206 of 820
What is even happening?

Dale continues to be annoying.

I know. He was so sympathetic for the first episode or two. Now, I keep hoping he'll be a casualty. I prefer Skylar to him, and I couldn't stand her at first.

And Super!Skeet cracked under the fear of his brother being tortured.
I know! I was sort of surprised by that whole plotline. I thought the Fake Marine Woman was playing him, and I thought Skeet knew it, and was going to manage to play her, somehow. Hmmmm. I guess I was surprised that there was no surprise.
Also, still no Heather. (Or Heather - still dead.)
On one hand, I'm a little more hopeful for the return of Heather this week, because Jake mentioned the Others New Bernites lie, and Eric did not come back with anything like, "I saw her corpse." On the other hand, I feel it's possible that Fake Marine Woman could be the new "spoiler" between Jake and Emily -- and that Heather might really be dead. I'm much rather have Heather. Let's kill Emily, Fake Marine Woman and Dale with one of those mortars.

At least we did get an extra dose of bad-ass Hawkins,
Yes! That was cool. I kind of like that Ted chickened out, too. I was disappointed for a second, but then I decided it was better to have some people react like that. I don't think I could shoot someone who wasn't directly trying to shoot me, and even then...

I am beginning to wonder about the apparently infinite amount of gunpowder and ammunition. Where the hell did they get the explosive for all those mortars?

It's funny you asked that Ginger, because last night, Scott said the same thing. I joked that they have a gun powder mine in New Bern, but I was totally intending to ask you about gun powder today -- like what it contains, etc. Is it sulphur? Is sulphur mined? Do they have it in Kansas?


-t - Apr 26, 2007 7:53:59 am PDT #207 of 820
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I was thinking about the munitions question while I was watching Jericho (Where the hell is Heather?) and I would accept the gloss that New Bern had a National Guard armory or something. I'm disappointed that they're heading for warfare rather than the building a society that works under these circumstances story that I wanted them to tell, so I'm not caring very much.

Having not seen anything else under discussion, yet, I will shut my eyes and flee.


sumi - Apr 26, 2007 7:57:53 am PDT #208 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

So, I guess they are wasting all their electricity running blast furnaces to make the shells for the mortars?

Sometime last night, I decided that what Jericho is REALLY about is NOT what an actual post-nuclear apocalypse would be but it's an opportunity to put modern Americans in the frontier and how would people fare w/o the stuff that they're used to.


sumi - Apr 26, 2007 7:58:59 am PDT #209 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, and the Morse code this week was "We pledge."

I don't get how that or the episode title (One if by land) ties into what we saw.


-t - Apr 26, 2007 8:03:03 am PDT #210 of 820
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Dale was poised to be so interesting just a couple episodes ago and now he's just not. It's a shame.

I loved Ted chickening out.

I used to know how you make gunpowder. Saltpetre, charcoal and sulphurl? Sulfur is the part that's hard to come by, I think. Thogh saltpetre being easy to come by might depend on having livestock. And if the kind of gunpowder you can whip up at home will successfully launch mortars is a hole other question. I kind of doubt it.


-t - Apr 26, 2007 8:17:53 am PDT #211 of 820
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sometime last night, I decided that what Jericho is REALLY about is NOT what an actual post-nuclear apocalypse would be but it's an opportunity to put modern Americans in the frontier and how would people fare w/o the stuff that they're used to.

Hm. Maybe. I would be okay with that premise, too, if they were consistent about it but the whole driving everywhere thing is really annoying.

Title and code just referencing the American Revolution for no good reason? It's reminding me of John Adams asking Abigail to make gunpowder in 1776, but I doubt that's what the producers had in mind.


brenda m - Apr 26, 2007 8:42:55 am PDT #212 of 820
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

During the first episode (all I watched, sadly) I kept wondering if it was all some grand sociology experiment and there weren't any bombs at all.


sumi - Apr 26, 2007 9:15:39 am PDT #213 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

They really do need to stop using horsepower and start using more horses and bicycles. Because - while not everyone will have horses LOTS of people have bikes and know how to ride them.

And how the heck are Stanley, Mimi, Bonnie and Bonnie's slackery bf supposed to plant that entire farm with no machinery?


-t - Apr 26, 2007 9:26:48 am PDT #214 of 820
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They already hit the point of the whole town having to work together to bring in the harvest, right? So it should be a known issue within the show.

Good call on the bikes.

I'm guessing that Skylar's (is that how you spell it? And where did I get my crazy Schuyler spelling from?) parents will make it home after she has made herself a comfortable place in the town's hierarchy and mess it all up. I kind of like that.