I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

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DebetEsse - Jan 11, 2008 5:57:42 pm PST #9256 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Good God is the Queen' costume atrocious


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2008 6:16:43 pm PST #9257 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I am very skeptical about an unformed fetus's mind boosting Teyla's will enough to let her take over a Wraith queen from hundreds of thousands of miles away. I could maybe see the queen's threat toward said fetus sending her into Get-Away-From-HerHim-You-BITCH! mode and giving her the strength to break free if it had been Teyla on the receiving end of the psychic whammy, but come on...


Dana - Jan 11, 2008 6:19:15 pm PST #9258 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm kind of hoping that the show just...doesn't address her pregnancy any more. Or at the very least, let Ronon and Lorne have all the scenes about it, because they're being awesome.


DebetEsse - Jan 11, 2008 6:22:20 pm PST #9259 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think everything that needs to be said and realized has been, so, yeah, stick a fork in the issue.

And I'll second the awesomeness of Ronon and Lorne.


Juliebird - Jan 11, 2008 6:49:28 pm PST #9260 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I can't believe they even "Went There" with Teyla's pregnancy: "you can't be in a combat situation because my manliness says so!" and they didn't even take it to the proper place of "I'll be the judge of what I'm willing to risk for my team!". But hey, should I expect any better writing?

Loved more Lorne screentime.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2008 7:11:17 pm PST #9261 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Has there ever been a prettier combination of actors/more awesome pair of characters sharing a camera frame on TV?

I think they should have had another bantos rod training session to let Teyla demonstrate to Sheppard just how much extra protection she's in need of. Who knows, he might even be recovered enough to go on missions by the time she gives birth.


DebetEsse - Jan 12, 2008 5:17:19 am PST #9262 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think the tone of the whole thing might have been different had she been doing that, instead of the exercycle. I read it as "not comfortable getting whacked (possibly in the abdomen)", or maybe "knows others won't be comfortable whacking her", which made the rest of the episode seem contradictory and John seem to be reading the situation correctly.


Theodosia - Jan 12, 2008 5:53:22 am PST #9263 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Rachel Luttrell is so very beautiful, which is what I came away with...


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2008 6:54:14 am PST #9264 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm kinda on John's side with this--or more that I don't see why Teyla wasn't on John's side with this. She's not going to be as balls to the wall as before, and they're all going to treat her as more delicate, and the baddies will treat her as a more valuable hostage, and they'll be right.

It's like the false reason not to have women on the team--I don't believe a woman is more delicate or more valuable a hostage, but the "two lives and one is an infant" thing? Kinda persuasive.

As for the fetal boost, I figured it was two Wraith-enhanced Athosians working in synchronicity which made things easier for her.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2008 7:03:45 am PST #9265 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I get that if we're talking another set of wraithy genes making the Hive ship respond to her more easily, as it would to a real Wraith. I just don't buy a 3-month-old mind (if there's any consciousness at all at that point) making her psychic abilities that much more powerful. The last time Teyla was the one helplessly taken over by a queen, and even when the latter was sedated and wounded she could barely preserve the integrity of her own mind against it.

Note also that the queen would have had at least one male and many, many drones around her in the hive mind, theoretically giving her a lot more psychic support than Teyla had available.