Mal: Which one you figure tracked us? Zoe: The ugly one, sir. Mal: Could you be more specific?

'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 01, 2007 10:14:02 am PST #8732 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Matthew Gilbert at the Boston Globe really doesn't like "Tin Man"

That review was REALLY weird. He didn't actually talk about anything but how the new one aped the movie (in the absolue snarkiest terms - as if doing any version of the WoO was heresy) until the last paragraph, where he didn't provide a single example towards the charges he was leveling. It made me think unfortunate thoughts about a certain stereotype who is way WAY too overprotective of Judy Garland and her legacy.


Jon B. - Dec 01, 2007 10:35:27 am PST #8733 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I thought the review was really funny. t shrug

I think that when you change things like calling the new place "the O.Z.", you're pretty much asking for people to focus on the "clever" ways in which the remake apes the original.


askye - Dec 01, 2007 2:09:35 pm PST #8734 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I'm watching DW and I forgot about the pissing contest the Daleks and the Cyberman get into.


DebetEsse - Dec 01, 2007 2:42:04 pm PST #8735 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

"Exterminate!" "Delete!" "Exterminate!" "Delete!"


Fay - Dec 02, 2007 2:14:59 am PST #8736 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

...I quite like the idea of Tin Man myself. I mean, I'm rather a sucker for retellings/reimaginings/revisions of folk tales and fairytales, however well or badly executed they may be, and althought Baum's books aren't technically that - well, in effect they are. Um. Plus - Alan Cumming! Always delightful.

I hope it doesn't suck beyond the telling of it.


le nubian - Dec 02, 2007 7:32:00 am PST #8737 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The one review I read said that "Tin Man" was inappropriately named. That is, the "tin man" isn't even close to being a major character in this mini-series and the reviewer couldn't quite understand why this was named such.


Laura - Dec 02, 2007 8:23:12 am PST #8738 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

lalala I'm not reading the reviews because I would like to enjoy it. If it can not suck enough that I can mock it while still having fun watching, that would be enough.


Juliebird - Dec 02, 2007 8:36:01 am PST #8739 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

"Tin Man" was inappropriately named. That is, the "tin man" isn't even close to being a major character

but, but! I wants lots of Neal McDonough!

::grabby hands::

I watched one of the behind-the-scenes on SciFi Pulse and they were saying that the essence of the story could be found in the Tin Man, and they didn't elaborate, but I took that to mean that "heart" was the main theme.


Ginger - Dec 02, 2007 10:07:31 am PST #8740 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

but I took that to mean that "heart" was the main theme.

Either that or "rust."


Laura - Dec 02, 2007 10:33:20 am PST #8741 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I broke down and read one review. And it was good! [link]

But in Zooey Deschanel, who plays D.G., it has a heroine who's almost as winsome and likable as Judy Garland's original Dorothy, and even when it gets carried away with its special effects, it always scurries back to the characters, who are the best reason to keep watching.

My #1 concern is not liking the characters. I can forgive lots if I like the characters. I'll be able to watch tonight, but the rest of it will be delayed. How long it is delayed determined by tonight.