Oh, I get it. You just don't like who did the rescuing, that's all. Wishin' I was your boyfriend what's-his-height. Oh wait, he's run off.

Spike ,'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


fialka - Sep 17, 2007 2:00:01 pm PDT #6580 of 10001
I am leaving. You are about to explode. ~Teal'c, 'Talion'

-I would enjoy a future more if everything she touches turns to plants. But I want her to find this out before she gets into bed again with Tom.

Mwhahaha. Oh, that's going to send me into inappropriate gales at odd intervals for the next couple of days. Poor Tom, there are some places one doesn't need petunias.

I didn't hate Meghan the way some people did, though I was desperately hoping for Alana to return. But I enjoyed this season very much. I've been watching from the start and I sometimes get the feeling they took a sharp left at the end of season 1 and found themselves someplace entirely else, said the hell with it, and ran like hell towards some goal in the misty distance which they seem to have finally reached.

Does anyone know if there's another season? A part of me would like that, because I think another sharp turn is the only place to go from here and I'm curious to see where they'd take it. OTOH, it feels resolved and finished (danglers included) and that's often best left alone.


§ ita § - Sep 17, 2007 2:15:54 pm PDT #6581 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think things were up in the air for next season, so they wanted something with closure, but also with angles to explore.


Ginger - Sep 17, 2007 2:27:44 pm PDT #6582 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

If this turns out to be the last season, they certainly went out on a high note. The body count was positively Minearian. Somehow it hadn't hit home until the scene at the cemetery with Shawn, Tom and Kyle how much that family had come to symbolize the three sides of the conflict. I'd like to see what Tom's ability turns out to be and how Diana feels about never being able to have an ability. I'd like to see Shawn's election campaign. I just don't know if they can sustain having all those people with abilities. For one, it's such a tempting deus ex machina. "We need someone who can smother a nuclear reaction. Hey, isn't that X's ability?" Also, the abilities are already becoming pretty outre. We'd probably end up with 4400s who can sharpen pencils or project images from all the WWF matches.


fialka - Sep 17, 2007 2:29:39 pm PDT #6583 of 10001
I am leaving. You are about to explode. ~Teal'c, 'Talion'

I think things were up in the air for next season, so they wanted something with closure, but also with angles to explore.

In which case...success. That's exactly how it played out.

So, while I'm here on time for once, let me ask -- in Maia's dream, Diana had an ability. Everyone else who had one in the dream does indeed now have one (save for Tom, but I'm guessing he wouldn't resist taking the shot now that it can't possibly be illegal to be P+ anymore). So...was Maia wrong, or could it be a flashcard that Diana being resistant doesn't mean entirely immune? I'm thinking latently developed nick-of-time ability of some sort developing in 5x06 or so. That is if there's a 5 to have a 6 of.

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§ ita § - Sep 17, 2007 2:33:18 pm PDT #6584 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't have an answer, Fialka--I'd never thought about it. But I'm re-crept out by Maia's proclamation of rightness at the end of the ep.


fialka - Sep 17, 2007 2:45:28 pm PDT #6585 of 10001
I am leaving. You are about to explode. ~Teal'c, 'Talion'

Ah yes, but that's what I like about Maia. She's alternately sweet and creepy. I like that no one ever seems to be completely one way or the other in this show. Apart from maybe Alana, who was just awesome. Sniff.


Polter-Cow - Sep 17, 2007 8:43:49 pm PDT #6586 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've been watching from the start and I sometimes get the feeling they took a sharp left at the end of season 1 and found themselves someplace entirely else, said the hell with it, and ran like hell towards some goal in the misty distance which they seem to have finally reached.

What I read back then was that initially, they were planning on saving the revelation that the 4400 were people abducted by the future and reseeded for much farther down the line, but USA wanted the miniseries to have some closure in case they didn't pick it up for series. So I think your assessment is pretty close. And it's bizarre because I can't imagine the series without us knowing about the future and the Catastrophe and whatever.

I do hope they get renewed. It doesn't look like the story's over. Because if it is, I suppose we can only assume that the entire world ends up p-positive. That Jordan Collier wins.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 18, 2007 8:08:00 am PDT #6587 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Happy Eureka day!


Liese S. - Sep 18, 2007 8:22:27 am PDT #6588 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yay, Eureka day!

And on the menu today? Hot Lunch!


sumi - Sep 18, 2007 8:44:22 am PDT #6589 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Bwah!