So, what, are the other Immortals still alive and Immortal?

No, they just feel like they are because they had to keep watching dailies of this crappy movie with people running through those trees for what seems like forever.

And the angel is praying, not weeping.

Well, at the time of the photo, at least.

Hee, Liese! It was totally scary, and I watched it alone the first time, too (and subsequent times) and, yeah, still scary. Fortunately, there is no statuary here.

And I would love to see Sally Sparrow as a companion. In fact, I would love to see Sally and Larry both on as companions, because then they could have their own love story, and they could see the world and be company for the doctor, but not all caught up in him.

You are not alone in this. By a long shot.

I can't help wondering if Jo's regression has anything to do with Andrew Cosby's departure and new writers picking up the reins. "God is in the Details" is the first episode written by Eric Wallace, who apparently just doesn't "get" Jo. Still, you'd think Tania and Jamie would exercise some sort of quality control...

You've just reminded me of what Jane Espenson did to Inara, and I still wonder how the f*** that happened. /issues

edited because having issues is no reason to mispel her name.

I'm definitely getting a Weeping Angel for my garden. It would be very effective in taking care of the neighborhood kids who wander in....

I have to admit I kinda liked the cheesiness of "Origins". I think this goes into the "so bad its good" pile. Of course I can see how if you were into the series (as opposed to occasionally choosing it as workout accompaniment) the awfulness would hurt. But if you can separate it from the series, they are approaching "Plan 9" territory here. Or at least "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" .

I never saw any of the original Dr. Who series. Thus I go into watching Who, and Torchwood, with no expectations. It's nice. Kinda like seeing the movie when you haven't read the book.

I watched the first episode of Torchwood last night, and enjoyed it. The second is waiting for me to finish cleaning my room. I've read enough of the discussion here to know what Jack was talking about when he kinda-sorta explained being immortal to Gwen, so that was nice. Also I caught the last couple minutes of the Dr. Who episode they showed just before, with the werewolves and the queen, and that explained how Torchwood came about, so that was good too. I no longer feel that I have to completely catch up on Who before I launch into Torchwood.

So, back on Series 1 of Doctor Who, at the end of The Unquiet Dead, what are people's understandings of the truth of events?

Because I'd always believed that The Doctor lied to Rose. He saw that Gwyneth was un-savable and willing to do what had to be done, so he told Rose she was already dead.

Trudy read it (and wikipedia backs her up) as The Doctor checks Gwyneth for a pulse and finds none, so he's telling Rose the truth.

I thought that she was dead from the moment they entered her body and from then she was essentially a spirit animating her own corpse.

But they entered her back during the seance, as well, didn't they? I suppose the overload of being the bridge...yeah, I could buy that.

The animating her own corpse thing seems like a cop-out to me.