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Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Sep 11, 2007 5:03:25 pm PDT #6277 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

No, Jo, don't do it! Kick him to the curb! No, no no--

*slaps Jo and writing staff*

I was kinda enjoying the ep. The Jo stuff threw me, as did the resolution with the church. But that's personal issues. Guess everyone got the fear of god put in them despite the actual causes for the weird happenings. So false. Ick.

I really was frightened though, that Henry would step through. Joe Morton just rocks.


sj - Sep 11, 2007 5:05:45 pm PDT #6278 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Did people catch Zoe's, "Bored now" when she was talking to Jo? I thought it was a coincidence, but after the Hellmouth reference, I'm not so sure.

I liked it, and I like the multi-layers of Jo, that she can be strong and still insecure, although she should have called the guy out for being an ass too.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2007 5:05:50 pm PDT #6279 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Heh, thought the EXACT same thing about the preview. I'm guessing this might be the episode CFerg referred to earlier - Maneater. And double-heh on that.

a.k.a. Magical.

Actually, probably alien, but that may be a tomato/tomahto distinction. And I don't think Stark is right - the cure didn't happen until the thing was shut down.


JenP - Sep 11, 2007 5:10:57 pm PDT #6280 of 10001

Yeah, sj, I don't mind that she has insecurities - who doesn't? I didn't like the way it played out here, though. Maybe I'm projecting again, but I was just so turned off by his boorish behavior that I couldn't believe Jo's reaction wasn't "T'chyah. See ya' later, dude." But rather to go into "He's so smart/I'm so dumb." Just... blech.

Loved that Jack was completely comfortable leaving Zoe in Stark's care. "He's pretty OK at what he does." (Paraphrase). Loved that.


DXMachina - Sep 11, 2007 5:11:31 pm PDT #6281 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

And I don't think Stark is right - the cure didn't happen until the thing was shut down.

Stark is a believer, both in the artifact and in Kevin.


Juliebird - Sep 11, 2007 5:12:49 pm PDT #6282 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm not the one to pick apart what we know of Jo and analyze whether this covers for that and if this other thing can coincide with that thing. It's just, soft-gooey Jo-center never equated in my head to "Dr. Laura Schlesinger's '10 Things a Woman Should Never Do'".

Having trouble finding the right guy, sure. Believing she's lesser than anyone smarter than her? Hell no. I pegged her with more self-confidence and self-worth than that. That she puts on a tougher front than she really is does not equate to stupid inferior chick in my book.

It makes me sad.

Whether or not it tracks, I'm severely disappointed the writer's went this route with Jo.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2007 5:13:07 pm PDT #6283 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Stark is a believer, both in the artifact and in Kevin.

Totally. I think that's going to be a big plot point, along with the Henry/Jack stuff that's been bubbling up.


Juliebird - Sep 11, 2007 5:15:02 pm PDT #6284 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

"Just gotta have a little faith" (paraphrased) makes a special guest appearance! I wonder if this through-line is going to have some sort of wonderful payoff. I hope so, cuz I latched onto it since Once in a Lifetime.


SailAweigh - Sep 11, 2007 5:16:12 pm PDT #6285 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I'm severely disappointed the writer's went this route with Jo.

Ditto. I thought she walked out of brunch because he was an elitist, insensitive ass. Now, she very well could be insecure and feel what she was telling Zoe, but I couln't see her actually telling Zane that. It took her a while to open up to Carter about her dreams, why would she blurt her fears out so quickly to someone she's only just met? Gah! I want to slap the writers.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2007 5:22:50 pm PDT #6286 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I have a horrible feeling they came up with a great character (Jo) and now don't know what to do with her. It could be worse - they could be setting her and Carter up (next week notwithstanding where it's SUPPOSED to be a shocker to Jack) - but I don't know why they keep trying to farm her out her out as needing to be with one of the guys around.

Still hoping she might save Henry from his Kim obsession (much as I'd love Kim back), but that seems to be the only place the writers won't go. Hrmph.