He doesn't travel well. He's like fine shrimp.

Anya ,'Touched'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

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askye - Sep 07, 2007 3:37:12 pm PDT #6127 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Also I love the way the boy describes the Doctor -- "like fire and ice and rage he's like the night and the storm at the heart of the son. He's ancient and forever he burns at the center of time and can see the turn of the universe...and..he's wonderful."


quester - Sep 07, 2007 3:53:24 pm PDT #6128 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Also I love the way the boy describes the Doctor

Yeah, that was cool!


§ ita § - Sep 07, 2007 4:05:20 pm PDT #6129 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At first when I heard that description I was all ready to eyeroll at the very muchness of it all, but by the end of the ep I was more in the "Damn. Cold-assed bastard." camp myself.


sumi - Sep 07, 2007 4:09:06 pm PDT #6130 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

That was great.

Harry Lloyd (Baines) is wasted in Robin Hood.


tavella - Sep 07, 2007 4:16:19 pm PDT #6131 of 10001
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

There's always been a element of ruthlessness in the Doctor, but with most incarnations it is buried fairly deeply (though varyingly.) One of the things I love about Ten this season is that he's so raw and wounded that it's just a millimeter under the skin, as a number of guest villains have found. He's wild and cold and fey, and I'm not sure I'd want it to go on forever, but it made for a hell of a ride during the season.


§ ita § - Sep 07, 2007 4:21:23 pm PDT #6132 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought Nine was dangerous too, but much less fey.


amych - Sep 07, 2007 5:21:13 pm PDT #6133 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Have we seen this? Tennant and Stewart and Hamlet, oh, my. [link]


Frankenbuddha - Sep 07, 2007 5:56:51 pm PDT #6134 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

10 is very old testament/Greco-Roman in his punishments, isn't he? If he was afraid this is what he'd have to do, you'd think he might have left a suitable warning before he tried to disappear.


sumi - Sep 07, 2007 7:31:29 pm PDT #6135 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

John Barrowman interview from TV Guide (it seems a bit familiar - but I imagine that there was one huge promo tour or something.)


Typo Boy - Sep 07, 2007 8:28:55 pm PDT #6136 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So 10 got all those people killed in hopes he could avoid having to punish the family - with absolutely nothing to base that hope on. As others have said, cold bastard.

John Smith wanting to stay human, and the Doctor saying that Smith was still part of him is a good argument against my hunch that the Doctor just looks on people the way we look at household pets. On the other hand it would explain his willingness to get risk getting a lot of people killed for a chance of redeeming the monsters. Maybe he considered the blood family higher up the scale of evolution; closer to the timelord level in intelligence and power if not in morality -- even if the timelord in question could control them easily. Some people might risk a lot of dogs or cats for a small chance of saving a person. And a really lonely person might welcome the chance to live a dog or a cats life for a little bit.