I'm all up in the law now, but damn it feels good to get my violence on.

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Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Aug 22, 2007 2:57:12 am PDT #5708 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Nah, he was doing it in the same sort of apparently casual way that the rest of their ongoing teasing was played, so I don't think Jo and Zoe would realize.

I read the way he said it completely different than you. I thought he had a completely different tone: trying to be firm while not letting on just how much it bothered him, but just enough edge to make it different from all the times they've teased each other.

Must rewatch!

Weird how my mind works: when Carter was telling the story to Zoe, and he said they assumed he was driving, he didn't deny it, "didn't matter who was behind the wheel, he was responsible", I went to a "Kim's Death" place and his involvement with that. I didn't go to the "And this is why Carter was all het up with Allison about taking responsibility", because I bought that he's an action/consequences kinda guy. I didn't blink that he'd have that sort of moral fiber in his professional career.

I didn't think he needed a reason to believe what he did, and looking back now it seems weird that we needed to be shown the "reason" in such a manner.

I could be wrong.


Ailleann - Aug 22, 2007 3:40:10 am PDT #5709 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I didn't think he needed a reason to believe what he did, and looking back now it seems weird that we needed to be shown the "reason" in such a manner.

I could be wrong.

Not to sound mean, but it's been well-documented that a Buffista is not usually a "traditional TV watcher." Other members of the audience may have needed that component to bring everything together.

(I'm just glad it wasn't an anvil, like the goose thing.)


Juliebird - Aug 22, 2007 3:58:40 am PDT #5710 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Ha, I was just coming back here to say (and I did say that I could be wrong, you're not mean!) that Carter's driving lessons story served two purposes* (slow, me?). The Allison/responsibility, and Zoe learning to drive. But not because Carter thinks Zoe will be a bad driver, but because here is another girl he loves that he's responsible for. Possibly the last girl he taught how to drive died, and now here's his daughter, asking for the same thing (the driving, not the dying part, but maybe to Carter those two blend a little too much into each other.)

* Are the eps this season extra dense and meaty? I feel like I'm missing half the stuff that's going on, and that the other half is getting squashed and rushed by to make room for the other awesome (or more like tofu bacon) plot/subplot/line/look.


Ailleann - Aug 22, 2007 4:02:52 am PDT #5711 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

but maybe to Carter those two blend a little too much into each other

Didn't he even say "reminds me a little of you"?

Allison/responsibility

I didn't really grok this until it was pointed out here. I just took it in stride as part of Carter's personality.

Are the eps this season extra dense and meaty?

They are adding more character development, and reference to same, I think, but maybe not balancing out every episode like they should. (See: awkward gym outfit.)


Theodosia - Aug 22, 2007 4:16:29 am PDT #5712 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We all squeeed when we saw it was a Jane Espenson episode!


Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2007 4:17:22 am PDT #5713 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

We all squeeed when we saw it was a Jane Espenson episode!

I completely missed that. Go Jane E!


Jon B. - Aug 22, 2007 4:35:45 am PDT #5714 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

We all squeeed when we saw it was a Jane Espenson episode!

I missed that too!

This was another episode with GREAT characterization, but a plot that needed a lot of hand-waving. The thing that bugged the most plot-wise? We had Gramps!Fargo and Famous-Scientist-Emeritus guy each claiming that one was the assistant of the other and Carter searching for esoteric evidence to figure out what happened. Wouldn't the DoD have pretty thorough records as to the positions of each of them at the time?


sumi - Aug 22, 2007 4:45:44 am PDT #5715 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I missed Jane's name too.


DCJensen - Aug 22, 2007 5:26:25 am PDT #5716 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Also, bad empty coffee cups! Or coffee cups filled with tepid water that no one is afraid of spilling so they handle it casually. (Nah, it even sounded empty like and empty thing when it was put on the table).

I brought this up one other time when the cups seemed empty, and Colin said that they usually have liquid in them. I think they should fill them with mashed potatoes or something.


WindSparrow - Aug 22, 2007 6:10:08 am PDT #5717 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I brought this up one other time when the cups seemed empty, and Colin said that they usually have liquid in them. I think they should fill them with mashed potatoes or something.

The gag reel in my head has 'em putting marbles in the styrofoam cups, with the inevitable scene with the lid coming off, marbles hitting the floor, people falling all over, Hepburn/Grant/Bringing Up Baby thing going on. (ETA: Good gravy, I just noticed who posted that comment. Daniel and I are such a geeky, met-online couple. We didn't even bother to have this discussion outside this forum. And let's not go into the whole IMing from the living room to the dining room thing.)

Two things. I wonder what Belle's work in Eureka was. And, I was going to ask why a slap-dash, quonset-hut military installation, backwater town was doing with a jewelry store, way back when it didn't have many of the amenities it does now. But then I remembered that Charlie was growing that diamond. So, is the growing of gemstones for scientific, laser of death purposes Charlie's raison d'etre en Eureka and the jewelry making a happy sidelight, or is the jewelry so brilliant that the scientific lapidariness of Charlie the secondary effect?