No power in the 'verse can stop me.

River ,'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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sumi - Jul 31, 2007 5:54:33 pm PDT #4946 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I thought that the gayness of Vincent had been established in season 1 sometime.


Juliebird - Jul 31, 2007 5:56:06 pm PDT #4947 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I don't think it has been explicitly stated on the show that Vincent is gay, which I thought was nice. It's just been in my head that this is fact from one of the podcasts when I believe Cferg is talking about the casting of "the gay chef".

I just realized that Carter was the Fargo of this episode! Don't put the fiendish thingy on your face! Also, those blows on the head? OUCH! whack whack whackwhackwhack

eta

One of my minor quibbles from last season was that for a town of geniuses of all stripes and colors, that sometimes the dialogue was generic and lacking in a wit I would have expected. But Abby wins the cake with her "You wanna piece of me?" That coulda been pulled off by a character more familiar with SARAH, but just seemed off/weak/lame coming from a newbie.


tavella - Jul 31, 2007 7:22:40 pm PDT #4948 of 10001
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

I'm adoring Stark so much more as bitchy freelancer than I did as semi-menacing boss. "Oookay. MRI it is!"


CFerg - Jul 31, 2007 9:05:09 pm PDT #4949 of 10001

I liked the episode because of the reveals.

I love Jo's structure - how you actually don't know what's going on. I'm still confused by some of the editting this year - but I'll have to adjust.

But I liked the story. That's about it. It wasn't a "calamity of the week" but still a cool little story and I liked that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 01, 2007 1:20:53 am PDT #4950 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It was some very nice relationship work between your character and Zoe.

Afraid Abby's not winning me over either. Perhaps I'm just missing the mama bear reaction to Zoe having been the initial wearer of the potentially deadly home therapy device, which might actually be good justification for a stronger urge to get her back to LA rather than a change of heart?

Henry, Allison, and Stark were all joys to watch in this episode.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 01, 2007 2:42:07 am PDT #4951 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It was a little sad making to see old Henry back. Joe Morton did a great job with the look he gave Jack when Jack was talking about "remembering things that never happened" and how much Henry had helped him in his fantasy world.


Juliebird - Aug 01, 2007 4:56:28 am PDT #4952 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Did anyone else catch how fast Stark walked away when Carter came to? I love that despite the animosity and rivalry, there is that underlying respect. That Stark allows Carter his dignity by not letting him know that the "enemy" saw him in his weakened and vulnerable condition. eta I'm rewatching and I missed the smile right before he walks away. Oh Stark, ya big softie.

Or maybe Stark was just jealous that Abby and Zoe got to hug Carter and Stark didn't.

Jo rearranging furniture was brilliant upon rewatch (and Carter sees her with a ponytail?) Carter's compliment to Fargo was odd. Nice, but, odd. Which, was Fargo there at the end with the rest of the village? He would be if he knew Carter thought he had a good singing voice.

This ep blows my theory out of the water of Allison knowing about Henry's suspicions concerning Kim's death and Beverly's involvement. She has a power struggle with Beverly over Henry last ep, but I guess it was more about Allison holding some personal grudge towards her. Interesting that Allison, although concerned for Henry's well-being and state of mind as shown in this ep, was the very person who put Henry in this very position for her to be concerned over by using him in her grudge-match against Beverly. /pantpant


Vortex - Aug 01, 2007 6:10:02 am PDT #4953 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But I liked the story. That's about it. It wasn't a "calamity of the week" but still a cool little story and I liked that.

I think what I liked most about it, and I hope that Carter realizes, is that he solved the problem all on his own. Usually, it's beyond his understanding because everyone else is so much more scientifically advanced than he is (i.e. "ice funnel of death"), so they (Henry and/or Alison) has to interpret the problem before he can solve it. This time, it was all him.

Also, back to the name thing, the doctor in the woods called her "Miss Blake". What does that say about how Carter views Alison? Or am I reading too much into it because I have that whole academia title issue?


Dana - Aug 01, 2007 6:21:20 am PDT #4954 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Or am I reading too much into it because I have that whole academia title issue?

I twitched at that too, Vortex. It's the kind of thing that's impossible not to notice once you're sensitized to it, whether or not it's really an issue.


Juliebird - Aug 01, 2007 6:31:04 am PDT #4955 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Henry looks so so wrong in office clothes.

As much as I'm loathing Abby (and not in the "we're meant to hate her" way), I really liked her at Carter's bedside demanding to know what's going on.

when Zoe asks Carter what he's afraid of, Carter replies "Right now, that" and points at the blue swirly light on the bridge. Maybe it's just coincidental with the pretty pretty lights, but perhaps it's also Carter's subconcious tying in the pretty pretty lights that ended his alternate life, taking him away from what he knew and loved --taking them away from him. Or it's all one big cawinkydink.