Aww, Jim Beaver calls the guys "the JJs".
See, this is what I'm talking about!!
Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.
'Objects In Space'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Ailleann - Jun 14, 2007 2:57:20 am PDT #2494 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Sue - Jun 14, 2007 4:43:20 am PDT #2495 of 10001
hip deep in pie
Okay, it's not the JJs that killed me, it's Jim Beaver calling them "buff-guys-the-vampire-slayers." I mean, HAR and BWAH!
Lee - Jun 14, 2007 5:05:13 am PDT #2496 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
So, SPN rewatch is Thursday at 7 boardtime, yes?
Yes!
Are we doing CSPWDT?
Yes!
Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2007 5:38:37 am PDT #2497 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Not London, Manchester! Integral and pivotal to the series!
Hee! I didn't know they were that different! All of England is London to me! I'll change it.
§ ita § - Jun 14, 2007 5:47:40 am PDT #2498 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I didn't know they were that different! All of England is London to me! I'll change it.
At least you're up front about it. But it's probably safer to err on the side of "place name mentioned frequently for a reason."
sumi - Jun 14, 2007 5:55:30 am PDT #2499 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Manchester. . . .isn't that in Alabama? Are you saying that LoM isn't in the Deep South?
An interview with Ronald Moore.
Dana - Jun 14, 2007 5:56:46 am PDT #2500 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I didn't know they were that different! All of England is London to me!
Oh, dear.
After enough British TV, I find Northern accents very distinguishable from what I identify as London accents. It helps that shows seem to take place in either London or Manchester.
Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2007 5:57:49 am PDT #2501 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I knew it was Manchester in 1973, but I wasn't entirely certain that Sam was in Manchester in 2006, due to my "all of England is London" view. Also, I may have thought Manchester was just a part of London, like Manhattan is just a part of New York.
So what makes Manchester a unique setting for the show? What is so pivotal about it?
(Is that "Oi! Oi! Oi!" a Northern thing?)
tiggy - Jun 14, 2007 8:28:19 am PDT #2502 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Fiona - Jun 14, 2007 11:19:23 am PDT #2503 of 10001
I didn't know they were that different! All of England is London to me!
Dude. That's like saying Boston? L.A.? Same difference.
So what makes Manchester a unique setting for the show? What is so pivotal about it?
The accents, the attitude. The largest English cities after London tend to define themselves very strongly as emphatically not being London, which reinforces the sense of identity.
In the 1970s Manchester (and the rest of Britain - except parts of London) would have been extremely parochial, witness the attitudes towards drugs and racism. OTOH, many nothern towns had proportionally larger Asian populations than anywhere else at the time.
Those narrow streets with the back yards facing each other? Very northern (see also: Billy Elliot).
Manchester youth's glory days - "Madchester" - were a lot later, mid- to late '80s onwards, when several bands from there defined the British music scene for a while (Joy Division, New Order, The Happy Mondays, etc.). If you're interested, the movie "24 Hour Party People" is a good place to start, coincidentally starring John Simm as Bernard Sumner. Also, Oasis are from Manchester.
Wikipedia entry:
Perhaps the setting apart from London is extremely subtle to an outsider, but it's definitely there.
Interestingly, from what I've read the LoM spin-off is supposed to be set in London, so perhaps there might be a difference noticeable then .