The thing you really don't want to logic out is the transcript! The Doctor created the easter egg from a transscript that was given to him of that easter egg. Temporal mechanics gives me a headache.
Willow: You know what they say. The bigger they are... Anya: The faster they stomp you into nothin'.
'The Killer In Me'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
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Jon B. - Jun 10, 2007 5:28:03 pm PDT #2449 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
JenP - Jun 10, 2007 5:30:28 pm PDT #2450 of 10001
Who 3.10 -
Right? I loved the whole big ball of timey-wimey stuff non-explanation.
JenP - Jun 10, 2007 5:36:22 pm PDT #2451 of 10001
Cereal:
Who 3.10 -
Here's a link to the short story Steven Moffat wrote on which this ep was based [link]
I haven't read it yet. Not that that matters.
Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2007 9:17:07 pm PDT #2452 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Jen, I've read it. It's very cute and amusing. Worth a read, definitely.
Jon, re: that interesting thing: Wow!! I was just thinking that damn, wonder how much it sucked to have to build all those different statues. Especially at the end with the lights flashing.
Fiona - Jun 10, 2007 9:33:21 pm PDT #2453 of 10001
OK, so I rewatched the episode last night. R. doesn't normally watch Doctor Who, but I MADE him sit through this one with me, and he loved it and thought it was brilliant (even though I did get an accusatory look and an "oh God, it's not just dead scary, it's sad as well!" when Sally meets up with old Billy at the hospital ).
Yep, I was wrong about the statues. I thought the Doctor said something to the effect that if they look at each other they're 'dead', but the usual still applies: they're only safe for as long as they are all looking at each other, so they would have to be left where they are for all eternity. Sorry about that. I do wonder, though, what would happen if you filled the basement with concrete... .
"the statues were played by actors! I assumed they just built a bunch of real statues..."
So did I, and I've got to say that they were one of the most amazing costumes I've ever seen.
JenP - Jun 11, 2007 6:33:53 am PDT #2454 of 10001
Who, 3.10 -
Yeah, when I watched the confidential and realized that the statues were actors, I was pretty amazed. That's some fantastic work, there.
§ ita § - Jun 11, 2007 6:39:49 am PDT #2455 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Dude. Really? Actors? It would seem simpler (and even perhaps cheaper) for that not to be the case.
A very well done job, that.
Possibly makes the whole thing more creepy.
Tom Scola - Jun 11, 2007 6:43:00 am PDT #2456 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Were the actors actually standing still for the shots, or were they digitally composited freeze-frames?
Polter-Cow - Jun 11, 2007 6:46:13 am PDT #2457 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
It would seem simpler (and even perhaps cheaper) for that not to be the case.
Really? I thought the opposite. I mean, building all those different statues in various poses?
§ ita § - Jun 11, 2007 6:48:18 am PDT #2458 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I was assuming that the basic building of a statue wasn't that complex, because it happens reasonably often. As to quantity, I'd assumed that it wouldn't have to be that many different poses represented.
Man, they can hardly get actors to stay still when they're dead--I wonder if they did go the frozen and statically inserted route.