You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.

Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

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§ ita § - Jun 04, 2007 6:04:44 am PDT #2263 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I felt marginally less cheated by the Doctor's transformation from John Smith because we got to see a flicker of him earlier on, one that underscored for me how completely completely (since merely completely wasn't enough, it seems) different they were, and how startling it was. I also felt like the emotional groundwork had been well laid.


DCJensen - Jun 04, 2007 6:05:20 am PDT #2264 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I don't know where Ten's soft underbelly is, and I don't trust him not to gut me if I accidentally poke it.

I think Ten is overcompensating for the pain of losing both his people and Rose.


Vonnie K - Jun 04, 2007 6:36:12 am PDT #2265 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I appreciate Ten's goofiness, but too often it comes off as... almost juvenile, too silly, like he's just putting on a show

Yeah, this was how I felt, as well. Which was why I appreciated the hardcore evidence that he can be a ruthless, scary son of a bitch from this episode. I wasn't a big fan of season 2 and the Ten/Rose relationship (which seemed to be too much of zero-to-eleven, and the giggly "we're in love!" hints and the interdependence irritated me, as did their melodramatic parting), as it seemed to rob the Doctor of most of the interesting gravitas I felt with Nine, but I do like how they are portraying the aftermath of the loss of Rose. The S3 Doctor is shaped by grief, both of his people and Rose, and he's a more interesting and unpredictable character because of it, I think.


Dana - Jun 04, 2007 6:39:40 am PDT #2266 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Just finished Who 3.09:

Oh, how awful that the Doctor asked Joan to come with him at the end. How callous to Martha. Ouch. I believe it, but ouch.

Okay, I have to go back and read what everyone else said. Thank god the board is back up.


sumi - Jun 04, 2007 6:44:25 am PDT #2267 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

The board was down?


Dana - Jun 04, 2007 6:48:15 am PDT #2268 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yes. Briefly. No pages would load. It was like an existential crisis.


Amy - Jun 04, 2007 7:42:44 am PDT #2269 of 10001
Because books.

Yeah, it was all blank white pages. Very zen.


JenP - Jun 04, 2007 9:49:53 am PDT #2270 of 10001

Dana, I had the same reaction to that, though Vonnie's take on it did make me go, "Hmmm..." Haven't rewatched yet.


Dana - Jun 04, 2007 9:50:58 am PDT #2271 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Who 3.09:

I like the idea that Martha knew what he was doing, definitely. But it's still a shitty thing to do. Though it's totally in character.


sumi - Jun 04, 2007 9:53:31 am PDT #2272 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

FYI: In Chicago this week SPN is not going to air until Saturday at 5 pm CST. (Which means you can have SPN on Saturday AND Sunday.)