Sadly, I won't. I'm taking the cranky Canuck out for his b-day. Have fun, y'all.
I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.
Willow ,'Storyteller'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
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juliana - Jun 03, 2007 2:37:07 pm PDT #2130 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Lee - Jun 03, 2007 2:46:00 pm PDT #2131 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Do we want to maybe say Tuesday at 7:00?
Amy - Jun 03, 2007 2:53:37 pm PDT #2132 of 10001
Because books.
Aw, I'm all ready for tonight! But if we need to change it, we should.
Beverly - Jun 03, 2007 3:01:37 pm PDT #2133 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I can do tonight, too. But I'm also amenable to change. So helpful. Y'all decide. I'll just be catching Blood Ties otherwise, and it's a repeat and I can always let the dvr get it.
Lee - Jun 03, 2007 3:06:58 pm PDT #2134 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Let's leave it tonight then. Knowing Cass and me, she'll talk me into watching it with her on AIM later anyway, and maybe J. and Aillean can join us.
Vonnie K - Jun 03, 2007 3:16:27 pm PDT #2135 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Doctor Who 3x09
Kate & Jen:
Not that Martha knew he did it, but ouch
My impression is that Martha did know the Doctor was going to ask Joan. When he comes back to TARDIS, Martha asks, with a concerned face, "how is she?" and the Doctor answers, "time we moved on." To which Martha offers, "if you wish, *I* could...", with the implication that she'd go ask Joan to come herself. At least that's what I thought. Poor Martha. Talk about overcompensating like crazy. But I freakin' LOVED the hug afterward. Aw!
Aside from Tim's speech about the Doctor, my favourite part of the episode was probably the last scene between Joan and the Doctor. Jessica Hynes was just amazing. The tiny look of bitterness when she asked, "if the Doctor had never chosen this place, on a whim, would anybody here have died?" -- wow. That question of accountability pretty much made the episode for me.
And I loved the fairy tale punishments for their harshness; they were like dark enchantments, terrible and haunting, and went a long way to change my mind about Ten being a relative lightweight in comparison to Nine. But I understand a lot of people thought the Doctor went way too dark here and his acts of vengeance made them lose all sympathy with him. Hmmmm.
I've rewatched the episode a couple of times today and it holds up beautifully. Can we make Paul Cornell a co head-writer with Steve Moffat whenever it is Davies steps off as the lead writer of the show?
§ ita § - Jun 03, 2007 3:48:16 pm PDT #2136 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Who 2005 3x09: I admit I kinda rolled my eyes when Tim described the Doctor pretty much like Galadriel with the One Ring, but then he pretty much went and lived right up to it. The idea that the choice to hide in England was the merciful choice, that it was the only way he could stop himself from consigning the family to eternal torture, and that apparently although the cost in lives was regretful, it didn't seem that he'd have tried it any different way... that's what chilled me.
askye - Jun 03, 2007 3:52:20 pm PDT #2137 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
I've been reading the whitefont and I can't wait to see this. I hadn't watched any of S3 yet so I'm slowly catching up.
I love Martha. I liked Rose, but I love Martha, I can't really put a reason on it but I just do. And I like Ten better than 9. CE did a great job, but DT just knocks it out of the park.
Tom Scola - Jun 03, 2007 3:59:18 pm PDT #2138 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
The idea that the choice to hide in England was the merciful choice, that it was the only way he could stop himself from consigning the family to eternal torture,
I read that as a rationalization more than a reason. The Doctor was looking for an excuse—any excuse—to stop and settle down.
Kate P. - Jun 03, 2007 4:18:38 pm PDT #2139 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Who 3x09:
Vonnie, I think your reading of that scene between Ten and Martha makes sense, though I saw it more as Martha trying to help patch things up with Joan so that they could move on without hard feelings -- and maybe to demonstrate to the Doctor that she didn't see Joan as a rival, so as to cover up her own feelings and provide plausible deniability.
I'm not sure where I fall on the question of the Doctor's reason for hiding himself as a human. Why does the Family of Blood drive him to these extremes of torture when he's dispatched other enemies far less cruelly? I'm inclined to see the line about the Doctor's "kindness" as hyperbole on the part of Scarecrow!Baines.