And I myself will be wearing pink taffeta as chenille would not go with my complexion.

Giles ,'Touched'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Ailleann - May 04, 2007 6:56:19 am PDT #1003 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I'm more ::flail:: than coherent right now, so I'll probably repeat some people...

What killed me the most, I think, other than the manly tears at Dad's graveside, was the swiftness of the decision to sacrifice, to surrender his happiness for all of those lives, and all the potential future lives. There wasn't a lot of gnashing and rending, just a little moment of "Man, why does it have to be me?"

I agree with whoever said that Dean is maybe in an unfortunate headspace for what may be coming.

In conclusion, oh, Dean...

The Manly Ackles Tears converted Zenkitty, we think. And frankly, who can blame her? Also, the non-SPN fans were surprised at the high quantity of actual flailing. (I thought I was being subtle...)


juliana - May 04, 2007 7:41:15 am PDT #1004 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Also, the non-SPN fans were surprised at the high quantity of actual flailing. (I thought I was being subtle...)

BWAH!!

I damn near whacked Daisy a few times last week with the flailing. It's probably a good thing we didn't watch Friday Night Lights together.

Dean was - wow. Yeah.

the Dean-as-mother trope. He's utterly invested his self-worth in what he can give to others--family and/or strangers. If he's not giving, saving, hunting, he's not really of any value to anyone, that he can see.

his perception of himself as an underachiever skating by on charrm, with a tenuous grip on ethics was a glimpse of how he undervalues himself in regard to the rest of his family. And that at some level, he's still taking on blame for things going wrong, even in his perfect dream world.

Those. Yes.


P.M. Marc - May 04, 2007 7:49:14 am PDT #1005 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Meg, one has to admit, had a point about his ability to self-torture.

Just SO many callbacks here. Really, it's a companion piece to Houses of the Holy, with side companionship to In My Time of Dying (ZEPPELIN FOR THE WIN!).


juliana - May 04, 2007 7:56:14 am PDT #1006 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

And (as Plei articulated Elsewhere), it makes the previous two eps much less fluffy and stand-alone. Dean has been so good at fitting into other lifestyles - he's been searching for a way out of hunting, a way to lay the burden down. (Which has been true since IMTOD - yay Zep - but is, of course, coming to a head as we come to the end of the season.)


Lee - May 04, 2007 8:19:27 am PDT #1007 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think all three of the last eps emphasize that Dean has no idea of how to be a "normal" adult. Both the movie production and the prison set, where he did fit in, are far from normal adult populations, in their own way, and in his dream world, he wasn't really acting as an adult.

He doesn't go to work, he never really connects with Carmen (and never has sex with her), and he has no real adult relationship with Sam. Instead, he spends his time in his mother's house, eating food she prepares for him, and doing "kid" stuff like mowing her lawn. Even before it turned out not to be real, it wasn't a sustainable adult life; it was more playing catchup on all the stuff he missed because she died.


DebetEsse - May 04, 2007 3:18:46 pm PDT #1008 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Jack! Look! It's Jack!


Cass - May 04, 2007 3:41:00 pm PDT #1009 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Jack! Look! It's Jack!
Yay!

And no I need to unsub for a few hours. I was going to thinky about SPN but that can wait until ... whenever. It's SciFi Friday!


Katie M - May 05, 2007 4:04:18 am PDT #1010 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Wow, once again I've got to say RE Shroud: What a WEIRD EPISODE. I mean, just, badly constructed, and then every now and then Daniel would do a weird little chair dance and I'd start giggling helplessly, because WTF?

I mean, it was awfully nice to see Jack, though sadly enough he was most himself in the scenes without Daniel in them. But chair dance/hair ruffle/fruit basket WTF? (No, that's not fair; the fruit basket thing I wasn't surprised by. Cameron's reaction of "THIS is the man I idolized for years and can't fill the shoes of?" cracked me up, though.)


sumi - May 05, 2007 4:47:33 am PDT #1011 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

It was weird. And I was really noticing how much time they spend sitting and glancing at each other. What's up with that?

And I was REALLY tired yesterday and fell asleep in the middle of SGA and then again in the middle of Numb3rs before I gave up and went to bed. So I saw that Rodney didn't die -- but I didn't see how they figured out how to get it so he wouldn't die. Did he retain his superpowers? Or did he lose them so that he could live?


Dana - May 05, 2007 8:14:15 am PDT #1012 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So I saw that Rodney didn't die -- but I didn't see how they figured out how to get it so he wouldn't die. Did he retain his superpowers? Or did he lose them so that he could live?

God, can you imagine Rodney with permanent superpowers? They figured out how to revert him.