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Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Maria - Apr 16, 2007 2:09:11 pm PDT #5375 of 10003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I have been at work for 42 minutes and I have had three emails about a fight in the library on Friday night and found three leaks.

And you're supposed to do exactly *what* about this fight now? Hopefully the night staff broke it up and kicked their asses out of there. And I wonder why the roof is leaking. @@ I spent most of the early morning wondering if the big bad wolf was outside of my house. I have never heard the windows rattle so much.

Happy birthday, Drew!

Feel better~ma to all the sickies.

Plei, the barrettes just about did me in. The Squeakaboo is lethal.

New job? Something that you enjoy doing? Hot damn, juliana! Congratulations!


Hil R. - Apr 16, 2007 2:19:34 pm PDT #5376 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

From that same site, there's someone making an argument that, as far as I can tell, boils down to, "Children raised in an environment in which they have true freedom will never do anything morally wrong. Doing wrong requires a choice to do wrong, and human beings, given true freedom, will choose right. A child who chooses to do wrong makes this choice only because the actions of some adult took the right choice away from him."

At least, that's what I think he's saying. It's a bit puzzling.

t edited to fix stupid typo


billytea - Apr 16, 2007 2:35:32 pm PDT #5377 of 10003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Also, whatsherface, Hughes' 2nd amour killed herself and her child (who she got pregnant with while Hughes was still married to Plath) by gas suffocation. My students LOVE hearing the Plath and Hughes bio info. They're so scandalized and offended.

Indeed. I made the purchase, by the way, I now have Ted Hughes' Collected Poems. This is the good crack. And I am still amazed they made hime Poet Laureate. In Thatcher's Britain, granted, but still.


JZ - Apr 16, 2007 2:45:39 pm PDT #5378 of 10003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Children raised in an environment in which they have true freedom will never do anything morally wrong.

That's sweet. Deluded, but sweet. Has this person ever encountered any nonfictional human children, or does s/he actually spend every waking moment living within the pages of Little Lord Fauntleroy?

Doing wrong requires a choice to do wrong, and human beings, given true freedom, will choose right.

That's a noble view of human beings and right and wrong but, based on the history of, oh, everything, I'd have to say it's just the teeniest bit overly optimistic.


Jessica - Apr 16, 2007 2:47:38 pm PDT #5379 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

A child who chooses to do wrong makes this choice only because the actuals of some adult took the right choice away from him.

Has this person ever met a human child?


Maria - Apr 16, 2007 2:48:17 pm PDT #5380 of 10003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Hil, that site has more nuts than a Costco-sized jar of Planter's.

Doing wrong requires a choice to do wrong, and human beings, given true freedom, will choose right.

That's assuming that the idea of what is wrong and what is right is formed outside of societal constructs, which it can't be. The very premise of "wrong" and "right" has no meaning in a vacuum. Morals aren't the same from one society to another; how on earth can he come to the conclusion that human beings will always choose to do what is right given true freedom (whatever the hell that is)?


Miracleman - Apr 16, 2007 2:50:27 pm PDT #5381 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Doing wrong requires a choice to do wrong, and human beings, given true freedom, will choose right.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

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*snort*

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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Sorry. Was that overly cynical of me?


Hil R. - Apr 16, 2007 2:52:15 pm PDT #5382 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

OK, the same search that got me to that site now got me to an article about a family with six kids (ranging in age from young teenager to baby) who went backpacking through China. Much less head-explody.


Vortex - Apr 16, 2007 2:54:42 pm PDT #5383 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Doing wrong requires a choice to do wrong, and human beings, given true freedom, will choose right.

sure, they'll choose right. Whatever is right for them, anyway.


Maria - Apr 16, 2007 2:55:07 pm PDT #5384 of 10003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Breathe, MM. I can't have you dying on us now.

Was that overly cynical of me?

It may have been, especially if you look at the actions of our God-fearing and altruistic presidential administration. They've always done right; it's the rest of us who believe that the Constitution isn't a piece of toilet paper who've done wrong. And boy, do they let us know....