My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2007 9:17:21 pm PDT #5228 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Awww, Zen and Gris going to see a show and Teppy's 100%.

Hec, your quoting of The Crow (not quothing, which is rightly applied to ravens) has me chasing down Ted Hughes' collected works.

It's truly one of the great poetry books of the 20th century but dang it's coming from a dark place. At first I thought, "Oh yeah - this is after Sylvia Plath's suicide." But it was worse! After Plath's suicide he rebuilt his life, raised his kids, dedicated himself to her work, fell in love with a woman, had a child with her...and then that woman committed suicide. With their child.

As bad as the first blow would be to take, to fight back and rebuild and then have it all ripped apart is just unimaginable.

On top of which, he was wildly vilified by feminists of that era for "driving" those women to suicide. Yeesh.


billytea - Apr 15, 2007 9:36:05 pm PDT #5229 of 10003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

It's truly one of the great poetry books of the 20th century but dang it's coming from a dark place.

Indeed so. And they made him Poet Laureate! That should've been the Queen's Christmas address. "My loyal subjects, we have appointed Ted Hughes as our Poet Laureate. Life is pain. God bless this United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."


P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2007 9:36:05 pm PDT #5230 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I feel compelled by the demons of pedantry to mention that his affair with Assia Wevill began while he was still married to Plath, and that he was no more faithful to Wevill than to Plath.

Also, that Hughes seems to have had a serious thing for the unstable ones.


Cass - Apr 15, 2007 10:38:45 pm PDT #5231 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Also, that Hughes seems to have had a serious thing for the unstable ones.
Like attracting like?


Nora Deirdre - Apr 16, 2007 3:14:25 am PDT #5232 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

He's always here to cuddle with (and, you know, for other things), and to talk to, and to make me tea, but he's a complete homebody, so I go out with girlfriends and to my writer's meetings, and he's fine with hanging out at home with the kids. I get outside socialization as well as him, and he gets, well, me, I guess.

Yeah, I've got one of these too. Though, sub "making beer and playing video games" for "hanging out with the kids."


vw bug - Apr 16, 2007 3:17:16 am PDT #5233 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

So, who can put in my coffee IV? I have SO much to get done today and tomorrow. Must get to it.


vw bug - Apr 16, 2007 3:20:49 am PDT #5234 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Oh, and Nora, do you have off today?


Hil R. - Apr 16, 2007 3:50:43 am PDT #5235 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

OK, so I canceled my classes for today. Reminded all of them that I've got office hours tomorrow and that they can come to the class section tomorrow morning if they want to. Feel horrible about this.

Now, back to bed.


vw bug - Apr 16, 2007 3:52:20 am PDT #5236 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Hil, that sounds really smart. I hope you feel better.


Volans - Apr 16, 2007 3:57:32 am PDT #5237 of 10003
move out and draw fire

Assia Wevill is a real name?

I can't not pronounce it "Ass ya weevil."

Oh, and apparently the host of the reception referred to my dad's fiancee as my mother (nuh and uh), said I was from Canada (and excused it on the grounds that Canada and Australia aren't that far from each other), and called me fat.

At my wedding, the minister (who was the identical twin of the psychic from Poltergeist ) referred to my step-mother as my birth mother (nuh and uh), said my husband was British, and never once pronounced my name correctly.

And yet, the marriage has been good and long-lasting, and I hope your wedding augurs the same for you and Biyi.

Hil, good choice. You shouldn't feel horrible about it; you are no good to them when you are at half-mast.

FOUR years?!?! But, you just had the surgery, Tep! Felicitations on the anniversary of it, and I am so glad it has maintained.