Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Spidra Webster - Apr 28, 2006 8:18:30 pm PDT #9366 of 10000
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Hope this hasn't been posted already. Marvel Secret Wars Re-Enactment Society: [link]


Mr. Broom - Apr 29, 2006 8:42:47 am PDT #9367 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I finished Preludes and Nocturnes. Good introduction. John Dee is a frickin' crazy psycho monster. I was sad when he killed Rosemary; she was a sweet, naive woman. And "24 Hours" was very freaky. Death is hot.

Gaiman's said "24 Hours" was one of the most disturbing things he'd written to date, which is probably true. He's also said the series doesn't really hit its stride until "The Sound of Her Wings," which is definitely true, so if you liked Preludes and Nocturnes, prepare to be gobsmacked with greatness.

Death and Delirium are tied for my favorite of the Endless, with Dream not far behind.


Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2006 9:02:11 am PDT #9368 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Gaiman's said "24 Hours" was one of the most disturbing things he'd written to date, which is probably true.

I don't doubt it. It's completely unrelentless and unsympathetic and brutal, with no happy ending in sight. As you read it, you just keep thinking, "This can't be happening."

I like the way Dream talks in black text bubbles.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 29, 2006 9:54:50 am PDT #9369 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I always thought of "A Doll's House" as the very best arc of Sandman stories, though I gather that Season of Mists is more popular and definitely had greater impact on the Vertigo setting.


Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2006 7:35:06 pm PDT #9370 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Everyone I've talked to has named Season of Mists as their favorite, along with Brief Lives.

I'm going to start A Doll's House tonight. Yay.


Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2006 10:51:20 pm PDT #9371 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

All right, I'm halfway through A Doll's House, and I'm loving it more and more. It's becoming a whole lot more epic, with the tale of Nada and the machinations of Desire and Despair and the escape of Dreaming citizens and everything is connected and important!

I wasn't surprised to see Unity Kinkaid again because Gaiman specifically mentions her in his recap of the first volume, so it was like being spoiled by a previously. I think it's amusing thar Rose's hair is about four colors, and depending on what angle you see her, you only see one at a time.

Comic books are such a physical, tangible medium. It's such a strange experience to have to turn the book ninety degrees for four pages.

Dream is kind of a badass ("I don't think you'll enjoy the next few thousand years"), but he's also kind of a jackass. What he did to Nada was asshattery of the highest degree. "You won't marry me, so here's a hot cup of eternal torment"? The hell? That's a new twist on the old "Immortal in love with a mortal" story.

I've decided that the ending of Part Three is a good stopping point until tomorrow. It's when Jed gets picked up by the Corinthian, which made me audibly say, "Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck," and, well, I love when stories make me do that.

I will not be surprised if I have nightmares about the Corinthian. Dude has TEETH FOR EYES.


Mr. Broom - Apr 30, 2006 4:57:15 pm PDT #9372 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

All right, I'm halfway through A Doll's House, and I'm loving it more and more. It's becoming a whole lot more epic, with the tale of Nada and the machinations of Desire and Despair and the escape of Dreaming citizens and everything is connected and important! I wasn't surprised to see Unity Kinkaid again because Gaiman specifically mentions her in his recap of the first volume, so it was like being spoiled by a previously.

Yeah, characters recur from start to finish. Just about everyone who's of any importance appears in more than one story, and occasionally a few incidental characters. Gaiman's got a thing for interwoven character arcs.

Dream is kind of a badass ("I don't think you'll enjoy the next few thousand years"), but he's also kind of a jackass. What he did to Nada was asshattery of the highest degree. "You won't marry me, so here's a hot cup of eternal torment"? The hell? That's a new twist on the old "Immortal in love with a mortal" story.

Makes you feel sympathy for Angel. Immortals? Not so good at personal relationships. You start to wonder if it just comes with the territory.

I will not be surprised if I have nightmares about the Corinthian. Dude has TEETH FOR EYES.

Seriously. I had friends try to get me into Clive Barker for years, but I can't think of anything he ever did that was as menacing as the Corinthian, and 90% of the time he doesn't even get his hands dirty.


Dana - Apr 30, 2006 5:01:34 pm PDT #9373 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Morpheus is my woobie.


Polter-Cow - Apr 30, 2006 5:57:07 pm PDT #9374 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Just finished Doll's House, and damn, this is good stuff.

How twisted is Gaiman to come up with a SERIAL KILLER CONVENTION and how dumb am I that it took me half the issue to figure out that's what it was?

I like Gilbert, especially because he can inspire exchanges like "What a wonderful place."/"Yeah. It was a friend of mine."

The ending felt a little deus ex angina, but it worked. And it ties in to the Big Picture of Desire trying to fuck with Dream for...some reason. The Endless are one wacky family. Dream and Death seem to get along, and Desire and Despair are tight, and Destiny seems like he might be the oldest, and there's this D who's disappeared that I don't know. I like how the final panel of Desire with her arms in the air made her look like one of the natives from the first issue.

I'm a sucker for Lost-style random connections like the fact that Rose's best friend was in the diner with John Dee.

I will wait for the time when Robert Gadley becomes important, though there was another instance where Dream acted like an ass, all, "You DARE accuse me of being lonely? I'm ENDLESS, bitch!"

I'm loving the worldview being presented here, just the way the Endless and the living interact, how the anthropomorphic characters really do represent facets of humanity, and thus Gaiman manages to say a lot of interesting things without actually saying them.


Anne W. - Apr 30, 2006 6:14:30 pm PDT #9375 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

PC, just so you know, I'm getting a huge kick out of seeing your unspoiled and utterly fresh reactions to "Sandman."